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标题: 有在MCGILL学LIBRAY AND INFORMATION STUDIES的兄弟姐妹吗? [打印本页]

作者: leon_liu86    时间: 2004-2-9 23:05
标题: 有在MCGILL学LIBRAY AND INFORMATION STUDIES的兄弟姐妹吗?
刚刚接到这个专业的研究生录取通知书,由于以前完全没有这方面的背景,所以对这个专业的具体内容很陌生.
如果有在读这个专业的同胞,请指点迷津.万分感谢!
1.有什么FUND可以申请?WORK-STUDY的工作机会多不多?什么时候申请合适?
2.我目前在TORONTO已经住了4个多月,打算最近搬到MONTREAL,我第一年和第二年能申请魁省的LOAN和BURSARIES吗?
3.如果我本科学的是贸易,请问该做哪些专业上的准备工作?
4.这个专业的有没有研究方向的细划分?偏向哪些方面?
不好意思,问得很白痴.初初级水准请大侠不要见笑啊!
作者: leon_liu86    时间: 2004-2-11 22:50
为什么没有人理呢?
顶一下.
多谢诸位!
作者: Timon    时间: 2004-2-12 18:10
你好MEN,
我以前曾经看过有人发贴,就是同一学校的同一专业。你可以用搜索查一下,然后和他/她联系。
另外,恭喜你被录取,请问你申请的是9月入学的吗?我也比较感兴趣,另外,你托福考了多少?
关于申请L/B的问题,你要先过来住满三个月可能才算魁省居民,才可以申请。所以以你现在的情况,越早过来越好!
作者: thesis    时间: 2004-2-12 18:18
我要写的是我熟悉的同学们——2001年左右移民和留学加拿大、在加拿大麦吉尔大学图书馆研究生院学习的十一个中国人(我们一届总共是85人,来自美国、加拿大、日本、韩国、保加利亚等),中国人占了总样本的13%。他(她)们是九位女性:小张、小贺、小董、小郭、小耿、小郑、小陈(以上为大陆新移民)、三位大陆女留学生小王、小张、小李,及两位男性:小叶(大陆留学生,应届毕业)和我本人。通过刻苦的学习和工作实习,截止到2004年2月,除了小叶刚拿到移民身份,在肯大继续读会计专业;小张选择回国等待移民身份;小李在等待移民身份的同时,已在蒙特利尔一个学校图书馆得到了半职;小郑去多伦多发展,我没有她的联系外,其余都找到了一份正式体面的工作:小王在得到移民身份的同时,结束了在国际航空组织的合约,二月份正式去华盛顿的世界银行总部工作(J签证),从事知识管理业务;移民小张初次面试就获得成功,在美国明尼苏达一家地理信息公司获得图书管理员的职位(三年H1签证,永久性职位,相当于部门经理,直接归总经理领导),近期公司已让她招助手;小董获得了纪念大学图书馆的职位;小郭获得了美国某大学医学图书馆的职位(三年H1签证);小贺在尼亚加拉大瀑布的一家图书公司工作;小陈、小耿在蒙特利尔的公司工作(恕我不写公司名);我本人在南岸的一家美国图书馆软件公司加拿大分公司工作,永久性职位。我们公司在图书馆软件全球市场处于领先地位,加拿大国会、多大等都是我们的客户,中国人熟悉的北大、人大等多所大学也都是我们的客户,全球装机量(按服务器算)已超过了1300个,图书馆用户超过10,000户。

也就是说,自去年六月毕业获得MLIS学位,经过两年的学习,大家都找到了理想的工作,实现了新移民路上的初次翱翔。我们并不算成功人士,可算得上是努力人士,脚踏实地的真正吃得起苦的人士。这种苦,不是体力劳累的苦,而是(1)志向坚定:.我们觉得既然移民了,就没有退路,就不要老想着这里混不了还能回中国去瞎折腾;(2)学习努力:讲起轻松,做起来真难。光是克服语言障碍,我们就要花上比外国同学多得多的时间,因为MLIS是文科,图书馆是为主流文化服务的,所以对语言要求很高,用词和表达都很讲究,所谓学术性的英语。记得第一个学期有一门必修课,两个大作业就是写两篇文章,一篇是EASSAY,一篇是REVIEW。刚开始,我们中国同学写的第一个作业最高也不过是B+,可到学期结束,很多同学都得了A和A-;(3)积极进取:我们到了一个新环境没有气馁,更没有怨这怨那,轻易放弃;(4)团结互助:我们自发成立了学习小组,避免了中国人屋里斗的陋习。我们不仅在学习上互相帮助,找工作也是如此,交流简历和求职信的写作技巧、面试经验等。总之,和很多新移民一样,第一选择了读书,尽管我们选择了名校,开了一个好头,选择了一个好的、相对容易找工作的专业,但是我们很实际,没有过高估计自己,也没看低、看轻自己,更关键是付出了难以想象的努力,特别是克服语言上的障碍,得到的回报就是文明社会的准入,一张进入加拿大多元文化的入门证。因为我们在图书馆行业的特殊性,所以我们有自信进一步深入和融入到加拿大多元文化中,从而实现移民路上的再次翱翔!
作者: thesis    时间: 2004-2-12 18:20
please send me your email. I will give you a toll-free phone number. Then you can contact me.I will give you details!
作者: leon_liu86    时间: 2004-2-13 00:18
WHITE LILY,你好!我是9月份入学.托福267.
你说的那张帖子我也看到了,多谢提醒.近期就动身到MONTREAL来.
作者: keywoman007    时间: 2004-2-13 17:11
好象在加第一次登陆其它地方超过三个月后到蒙要住满一年才能申请LOAN和BURSARY。
作者: keywoman007    时间: 2004-2-13 18:01
MEN,
请问你除了考托福还有没有考GMAT或者GRE?要多少才能录取?专科能申请吗?
作者: mon_trealer    时间: 2004-2-13 18:10
请问你除了考托福还有没有考GMAT或者GRE?要多少才能录取?

needs TOEFL only (at present 600+,writing 5.0 +)

专科能申请吗?must have undergraduate degree
作者: nomad    时间: 2004-2-15 00:48
Men,给你去了一封信你没有回,你好像不想大多数人那样愿意分享你拿到OFFER的经验。
作者: leon_liu86    时间: 2004-2-15 21:37
感谢大家的关心!!!
现在就大家普遍关注的问题我根据个人的情况做回答如下(但是还是要看每个人的具体背景和情况):

1. 不知道是不是专科也能申请.不过,可以打电话去咨询:514-398-4204(EXT:0742#)注意要在最后加#.祝好运!

2. TOEFL最低要求是250(600笔考),作文5.0

3. 我本人没有考GRE和GMAT

4. 我没有图书管理的任何背景.只是在写申请文书的时候比较多地结合了我6年多的工作经验(从商).

5. 如果校方对你感兴趣会与你联系,我因为人在TORONTO所以是接的电话面试.校方主要是核查申请人的英语听说能力,是不是与该人的TOEFL成绩和申请文书的水平相符.

祝一切顺利!
作者: zeta    时间: 2004-2-16 02:30
Frank_p,你好!我想了解一些信息,你可以给我发个MAIL么?我的MAIL是cathy901@sohu.com.先谢谢你!
作者: ice_point    时间: 2004-2-19 15:53
本来不打算写此帖子,但看到如此多地让人误导的消息,又觉得如鲠在喉不吐不快,故有此贴。
前面署名Frank_p的帖子,曾经被一位自称Fu Ping的网友以“如何在北美找工作”的题目四处张贴,,我本人就看到过3次,其言语中颇多沾沾自喜,似乎自己找到了一个多好的工作,而别人都应该知道。其实这帖子用来SHOW OFF一下也就罢了,如果像该贴所宣称的那样用来指导别人到麦吉尔读MLIS, 则有太多不实之词,亟需那些打算或就要来读的中国学生分辨清楚:

1.        首先要看一看你学了图书馆能干什么:其主要就业方向是在图书馆内做图书管理员,给图书编目和选书,做图书系统维护等。因为加拿大的双语制度,做图书管理员必须是有较强的人际交往能力和会流利的双语(英语和法语),这对绝大多数中国人来说是不可能的,基本上断掉了这一条路。最没有意思的工作是给图书编目,虽然对双语要求不高;做图书系统维护则是一个技术活,基本上与是否图书馆专业毕业关系不大。而所有这些的就业前景并不比其他专业的好,如果不是更差的话。
有鉴于此,许多人不愿意学这一行。从Frank_p的帖子中也可以看出,在11个中国人(其实在2001年由14个中国人,不知该贴何故减少了三个),只有两个男学生,其余皆为女士。这里不是说歧视女性,但也说明了学这一行的主要人选。
2.        其次:所谓的找到工作的人在干什么:如果从Fu Ping的帖子中的例子来看,在11个中国人中,小李只找到半职,极有可能是打杂的活;小张在不需要双语的明尼苏达地区找到一个图书管理员的职位,但与所谓的部门经理相差十万八千里,因为图书馆就她一个,而该公司几乎是总经理一个人,所以她可以“直接归总经理领导”;其他的几个人也是从事一些老外不愿意干的图书编目,上架等的体力活。而这已经是毕业一年半之后才如此。如果是刚毕业,可能情况会更差。至于洋洋得意的Fu Ping (从他自我介绍他所在的公司的情况可知其自豪程度)又怎么样呢?据他自己的帖子所说,他是因为先学了计算机找不到工作才学的图书馆,而他现在从事的工作极可能是技术维护,而非什么图书馆的专业活;也就是说,是因为他的计算机背景而不是图书馆北京才让其找到工作。如果你也要学图书馆,你有计算机背景吗?
3.        与此相关的是,要学图书馆,你必须有另外一个背景才有可能找到工作,否则,图书馆本身不能给你带来任何东西
4.        贴中所说的MLIS是文科,所以要什么学术性英语,更是笑谈,说是技术性英语可能还差不多,你只要看一看开设的课程就明白了,中国学生能够真正在学术性英语上得A A-的极少;至于“图书馆是为主流文化服务的”更不值得一说,也许是为了把它说成主流文化可以为学图书馆的人提高一下身价。那么多中国学生“团结互助”,当然有积极的一面,但更多是因为他们英语太差,老外不愿意搭理他们,所以这些学生就互助起来,“互相抄作业,应付考试,对付老师”。这才是‘团结互助’的真相。
5.        还有所谓的“主流文化”,要知道在加拿大这个多元文化的社会里,没有谁是主流文化。中国人在外面(无论你入籍与否)一定要不卑不亢,别一幅崇洋媚外的样子。什么“文明社会的准入”,什么“入门证”,给人的感觉是你刚从原始社会出来似的。

好了,说这么多只是要给大家一个关于图书馆专业的真相,别被那么多虚假的信息所误导。当然如果你有这方面的兴趣,或者想利用这一段的学习来更好地了解加拿大,以图更大的发展,也还是可以的,否则,你只会后悔你的选择。
作者: tu    时间: 2004-2-20 10:00
totally agree with ice point. personally i saw those people who have both computer and library degree got decent job. for the people who had strong english background, it's a good start point but you have to spend more time after graduation to get a permenant position. if you don't count what kind of job we are doing, if it's related to the education, well, most of us are working  
作者: BBSCRI    时间: 2004-2-20 11:49
c'est normal que le gagnant partage le bonheur et que le perdant se plaint toujours
作者: muffin    时间: 2004-2-20 13:06
请问ICEPOINT兄是哪一年MLIS毕业的?不妨说说你们那一届的情况?不要揪住FU PING不放,那只是他个人写作语气和笔法的问题.他顺他自然就高兴,高兴了就会美化这个专业是正常的.当然那只是他个人的情况.他举了他同学的例子,你也可以举你同学的实例来驳他嘛.
我们还是就MLIS谈MLIS比较好.你举出实例,不用抨击FU PING,别人也会判断这个专业到底适不适合中国人去读.
你看,BBSCRI下了一个那样的结论不是没有道理的.
作者: tu    时间: 2004-2-20 14:45
mlis 1999, 5 persons, all got jobs now. 2 have local both cs and mlis degree, 2 have both english and french literature degree, 1 from engnieer related field.

mlis 2000(winter and fall), 18 persons, 3 quitted, now only 2 working in the library,4 are studying phd or french, 4 working in another area related to previous experience, 2 running own business, 3 went back to china.

by my understanding, communication and interpersonal skills is really the key point to success for mlis student. it won't be a subject as popular as accounting because it has a limited market.
作者: tu    时间: 2004-2-20 15:01
by the way, the mlis program in university of west ontario provides co-op opportinity for students, and they have more technology-oriented courses, which is better for chinese students. so if you don't need l&b, it would be a better choice.
作者: wagner    时间: 2004-2-20 18:28
我也在申请MLIS。今天去MCGILL面试,和我谈的是学院的DIRECTOR,看样子是个亚洲人,叫BEHESHTI。挺和蔼可亲的一老头(也许并不太老),跟我闲聊了15分钟,问了一些诸如“以前在国内做什么工作,来加拿大后做过什么工作,为什么对这个专业感兴趣。。。”的问题,后来就说学校会在几周内做出是否录取的决定。有一点我有点疑惑:从men发的帖子来看,你好象是直接拿到了offer,而今天校长跟我说的是,他们只能给recommended acceptance,然后再提交到MCGILL的graduate and postdoctoral office,等他们做最后的裁决。不过他又补充了一句,一般他们报上去的材料,大约90%会被批准。
老头挺油的,一边和我聊一边翻我的材料,突然问我,以你的个人背景(我是学金融的),为什么不去报MCGILL的商学院?我当时顿了一下,因为其实我也报了MCGILL的MBA,但我没敢说,怕他多心(也许是我自己多心),含糊地说一句“That's really a good idea,I will think about it.”。
另外,现在对中国来的学生,MCGILL卡得比较严,比如GPA,老外75%就行,中国学生至少得80%,他告诉我我的GPA刚刚达标,平均80分,看他那口气,似乎不善。要不是我的托福还不错,老头可能就会当场下毒手了。
不想那么多了。命里有时终须有,命里无时莫强求。
作者: leon_liu86    时间: 2004-2-20 19:22
回答WAGNER:

1. 当时电话面试我的和面试你的是同一个人.并没有当时就下结论,一样通知我要等2个礼拜.

2. 通过研究学校寄过来的OFFER上的签字,发现录取的决定是DIRECTOR当天就做出来的,研究生院是第二天批准的.从我接受电话面试到拿到OFFER信是4-5天的时间(基本上就是邮寄的时间).

3. 祝好运!
作者: thesis    时间: 2004-2-20 19:31
我其实写的是记实性文章(will be published in local newspaper recently),贴了一段在SINOQUEBEC,并不是要鼓励谁来读MLIS.看看这个L的贴,就知道您该不该选这个专业,因人而异!
作者: ice_point    时间: 2004-2-20 20:05
回:
首先感谢TU 兄和MUFFIN兄的回贴,因为我写上贴的原因就是让大家了解真相,不要被那些浮夸的言辞所迷惑,走上一条误时耗财的路,也感谢TU 兄给出了更具体的例子.
就像TU兄所言, MLIS 专业的就业面很窄,但对学生的背景要求很高,要求至少要有另外一个专业做铺垫, 最好是计算机专业毕业的, 还要双语等,而毕业后所从事的工作要么是一些极没有意思的单调重复(这是由图书馆专业的性质决定的), 要么是从事与所学图书馆专业基本无关的工作. 这样一来中国学生就处于比较不利的位置, 退一步讲,如果你能够有这么好的条件, 你完全可以学更好的专业,找到更好的工作.

至于大家相不相信我所说的,完全可以等到比如MEN 和WAGNER到MCGILL 学上一两个学期,再来告诉大家真相到底如何. 当然BBSCRI(Crying in BBS?)所言可能是反映了他自己的心态,或者不高兴我告诉大家真相.其实我自己根本不是图书馆专业的,工作的薪水也很好.只是有一个很好的朋友学过MLIS,所以对图书馆专业比较了解而已,因而不愿更多的人上当,如此而已.成功者也罢,不如意者也罢,喜笑怒骂,一任世人评说,我已告诉大家我所知道的,信不信由你们了.SO LONG.
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作者: thesis    时间: 2004-2-20 20:22
Liar!!!!!!我没有记住在我的教室多少个人? 我数数是当我写这篇文章时大意数一数, 这冰知道数字的细节, 我猜测她是我的同学。我不关心她说什么,但我关心她想要做什么。我猜测在我的教室我没有敌人.she hates me just because she is a loser!
作者: BBSCRI    时间: 2004-2-20 20:35
您他的ma,
"当然BBSCRI(Crying in BBS?)所言可能是反映了他自己的心态,"
BBSCRI=BBS 评论家!CRITICS!
TRASH!
请问如果您有一个正派工作, 您能如此嫉妒?
作者: thesis    时间: 2004-2-20 21:54
批评这位女同学是没有必要的。我是为此痛心。我想我在她求职过程中给过她很多建议。比如用学术性英文,而不是技术性英文。因为这是一个专业职位,人家看你的素质。在面试时不要谈个人的事,更不要批评招聘方,不要说NO等负面的东西(大家从她的贴就知她是很Negative)。我在公司做的是完完全全的图书馆业务。图书馆专业大致两个层次。一个层次是不需要到MCGILL这样的学校读MLIS,而只要在COLLEGE读DIPLOMA就可以。常见的CIRCULATION借书还书的那种职位。我的职位是SYSTEM LIBRARIAN.MLIS是没有本科的,大多数MLIS学生是学文,理,医学,法律等的毕业生,所以MLIS的就业方向是:
Law librarian,
business librarian,
engneering librarian,
medical librarian,
social science libarrian
system librarian
等。我们公司的职员大多来自MCGILL,U. of MONTREAL的MLIS。
就业状况总的比其他专业要好,取决于你的申请技巧。我在毕业一个月就找到了,其她人如小王也是,她今天给我来EMAIL讲世行总部有6000多人,我看她的职位是负责联合国事务的。
如果你们要了解可直接打电话到MCGILL。
作者: thesis    时间: 2004-2-20 22:27
另外讲讲系统LIBRARIAN,给在找这个职位和定这个方向的同学一个参考.system librarian不仅要求你有基本的计算机系统知识,更需要你对整个图书管业务熟悉从编目到AUTHORITY数据,到用户数据,期刊,(用英文吧,Bibliographic records, authority file, user file, order, vendor, serials (base, index, supplemntary), bills, funds, charges)等业务都得熟,另外你要熟悉UNIX,NT,PERL,ORACLE,API等,今天我一天都在帮一个图书管改它的CALLNUMBER,因为从老系统装到新系统时出错了,学生找不到书,(去书架找书就是根据CALLNUMBER).那么我首先要想办法把老的CALLNUMBER找出来(这是图书馆最麻烦的一个业务了),要分析,因为做编目的人在编号和VOLUME时格式很多(这部分工作很所是志愿者做的,所以很乱)把错的CALLNUMBER找出来,编成TRANSACTION去改它.这是很复杂的,如果对MARC不熟,对系统(图书馆系统和计算机系统)不熟,一个一个改改到何时?我是自己做了个PERL和UNIX SHELL分析程序,还有API,我还没贡献给我的同事,很多人是简单地SORT,CUT一下然后一条一条检查的.这很费时.所以不是什么技术维护四个字那么简单!
作者: tu    时间: 2004-2-20 23:01
I agree with what Frank-p said. As a system librarian, the cs background is not enough. I don't know the situation in the library-system industry, but as for the library they will never hire a system librarian only with cs degree.

BTW,Frank-P, is the company "bibliomondo"? if so, do they sell both english and french products?
作者: frank11    时间: 2004-2-21 01:14
请ice_point说说什么是更好的专业,何谓更好的工作。
再者是不是ice_point兄或姐也可以将讲自己的专业,薪水也很好的工作是什么。给大家指点一下迷津。
作者: demos    时间: 2004-2-21 09:24
顶,绝对要顶…入学要求低,学习内容轻松,名校毕业后立即找到体面工作,好一个永久性职位!进入主流社会的Frank如此耐心的与大家share经验,实在是佩服,佩服!
作者: wagner    时间: 2004-2-21 10:43
看了ice-point和frank_p的争论,我也想说几句。到底什么专业好?为什么好?大家一直在为这个问题争论不休,前几年大家都说学计算机好,于是一窝蜂地去学电脑,就连那些本来自己的专业和电脑八竿子打不着的,也跑去读什么培训班。后来又说MBA牛,于是又哭爹喊娘地去读MBA。911来了,北美经济萧条了,大家傻了眼,又都开始痛骂IT和MBA是毒药。照这么下去,下一个毒药估计是DOUBLE E了。
想想看,我们的心态是不是有问题?
当然,就业(专业工作)是在这里体面生存的前提,不过,我觉得大家也不用功利到如此程度,听到别人说什么专业好,便不管三七二十一,先学了再说,然后等着毕业后天上掉馅饼,好工作找上门。
其实,真正起决定作用的,不是读什么专业,而是那个人的素质和能力。都说现在MBA烂了,为什么我同学前年从MCGILL一毕业就拿到offer,才一年多就在CIBC做到主管的位置?
任何专业,有其存在必有其市场需求。关键在于你自己是否符合这个市场的需求,是否qualified。这个世界上不会有一个专业,只要你读了就包你有工作(10几年前国内有,现在也没戏了)。
所以,第一,根据自己的具体情况选比较适合自己的专业,第二,也是最重要的,勤练内功。想找到工作,就得比别人强,没什么好说的。

谢谢men给我提供的信息。有可能的话,大家说不定会成同窗。(当然,我的第一选择还是MCGILL的MBA)
作者: leon_liu86    时间: 2004-2-21 19:56
同意WAGNER兄所言.其实TU兄早也说过COMMUNICATION和INTERPERSONAL SKILLS同样非常重要.找到合适的工作是一个综合的问题,不是单纯哪个专业就能决定的.
作者: leon_liu86    时间: 2004-2-21 20:04
感谢大家的热烈讨论.我想,无论是言者还是观者都本着客观冷静的态度,对大家会更有帮助.
作者: leon_liu86    时间: 2004-2-21 20:08
欢迎继续发言!
作者: wagner    时间: 2004-2-22 19:50
加拿大图书馆专业及就业状况(ZT自********)

加拿大的图书馆专业有两种:Master Degree和Diploma。估计美国还有很少量的Bachelor Degree. 现在所有的librarian都要求拥有Master Degree,它的基本的定义为:

A librarian is a trained information specialist who holds a university undergraduate degree and a Master of Library and Information science (MLIS) degree. Librarians are trained to find and collect all types of information--books, newspapers, magazines, databases, websites, CDs, videos, government publications and any other type of publicly available data. They are also trained to develop systems to organize and manage this information so that it can be easily retrieved. Librarians design and deliver information services for their client groups as well.

Librarian一般已称作Professional,属于Senior Staff。而毕业于College拿Diploma的一般称Library Technician,只辅助Librarian工作,最多算Paraprofessional。不要小看这点区别,因为正常情况下Technician是不可能往Management Level升的,工资也不可能高,即使可能这个图书馆只有你一个人。这个阶层是分得很清的。所以除非你满足现状,很多人还是愿回学校再读个Master的。

我想大家最关心的还是毕业后的就业和工资水平。通常图书馆分四大类:

Public Library, Academic Library (university or college), School Library, and Special Library. 大家最熟悉的是各个城市的公共图书馆和大学里的图书馆。

其实很多公司,政府部门,Nonprofit Organziation,Law Firm, Hospital等等都要Information Resource Center, 也是Library的一种形式,包括在Special Library中。

School Library本人认为是最难进的,因为需要有Education Degree, Teaching Experience(本地的) and Library Science Degree. 很多时候School Librarian need to teach some courses.

其次就是Academic Library. Because normally as a librarian in University, you need to have two master degrees, one of them is library science. College的可能要低一些,但很多也需要以前有Academic Library Experience,因为常常要辅导学生,协助Faculty do some research.

入门门槛比较低,并且工作机会多的是Public Library and Special Library。

那么一般Librarian做什么?主要有以下一些:Reference, Collection Development, Cataloguing, System Librarian, Information Research.

Reference Librarian我以前介绍过,主要是答疑解难,回答读者,客户(一般是Special Library) 提出的问题,帮助找到有关信息。

Collection Development is responsible for acquisition of print materials, electronic resources, AV, and other library collection related project.

Cataloguing在国内称编目,负责将所有资料整理输入电脑供读者查询。它和System Librarian一般都属Technical Services, 整日与计算机打交道。

System Librarian, 顾名思义,主要是维护图书馆的集成系统, 同时可能还会做一些Web Design, Computer troubleshooting, 它是介于Computer Science和Library Science之间的,需要懂得两方面的知识。还有一些专门的网页设计工作也可要求有Library Science Degree.

Information Research类似Reference,可能更偏重某一专业或领域,往往是某个项目成员之一,起支持作用。基本是在Special Library。也有很多公司没有专门的部门,只提供一个Contract.

Librarian的工作工资不高,起薪低,感觉比IT要少1/3 – 1/2。Entry Level about 30-40K, if Library Technician, about 25K. 但工作较稳定,很少有Layoff的。而且感觉工作机会不怎么随经济的起伏而变化。要想涨工资,一般要隔几年跳一跳。

找Librarian的工作,English和Communication Skill是非常重要的。其他的一般学校都能教会,但这两项还是要靠自己的能力。看看招聘信息,一般都要求Excellent Communication skills, 我们移民就吃亏在这里, 特别是本人,英语底子不够,求职是屡战屡败,屡败屡战,在多伦多时有两次都过了两轮面试,最后还是杀羽而归,搞得现在沦落在这中部小城市中。所以建议英语不好的还是别学,或者学的话,也注重学习图书馆系统方面,如Cataloguing,这样就减少和人打交道的机会. 我的Native classmate基本上都找到工作,很多到美国去了。因为美国在九十年代砍了不少Library Schools, Librarian需求量较高,机会多。必我早毕业的中国同学很少,我认识的一个找了将近大半年,在多伦多一家医院做database maintenance. 另一个到美国去了。

最后讲讲入学。

加拿大只有七所大学提供Library Science Degree, 又叫Library and Information Science, or Information Studies. 最好的是UofT的Faculty of Information Studies. 其次应该是UBC和UWO,MCGILL的也还凑合。据我所了解,UofT一直不招中国移民,这也可从他们的Admission中可看出,要求托福600分以上,写作6分!有同学告诉我,5。5分他们都明确告诉你没戏。其他的学校要求托福600分以上,写作一般5分。幸运的是我报考UWO时当时托福只要580,我刚好挤进去。现在中国人报的越来越多,一个学期进3-4个中国学生,结果水涨船高,托福分也就高了。University of Alberta还要GRE。

大多学校是两年制的,只有UWO可以一年读完,所以很多BC学生到伦敦来读。另外UWO的Co-op很好,你可以有两个学期的Co-op机会,不仅可挣钱,最主要增加Canadian experience,对毕业找工作很有用。由于Library Science没有undergraduate degree, 进来的学生一般是有其他专业的Bachelor degree,这也是Library Science的一个特点,因为你工作中要查找的信息往往是其他专业领域的,如果你有这专业的知识,很容易找到并和客户沟通。如果你有有关生物,医学的背景,比较容易在各大医院的Library or Information Resource Center找到工作。

如果你有其他专业的Master Degree, 前面讲到较容易在Academic Library中找到工作。当然PhD就有些over qualified, 反而难找工作,除非教书(这个机会也少)。我大部份同学都是Social Science的。另外由于加拿大只有七所大学有该专业(其中University of Montreal还是法语的) ,所以常常会遇到校友,套套交情也会有意想不到的作用。我的Manager就是我的校友,心里猜想她招我是不是也有这个因素埃

最后补充一句,这个领域是Women Dominate,记得看过一份资料,加拿大在九十年代中期做过一个调查,看图书馆是不是有性别歧视(对男性) 。

Some Related Links:
CLA (Canadian Library Association)
http://www.cla.ca/

Canadian Universities that provide degree:
http://www.cla.ca/resources/sch_lib.htm

Library Technician Program
http://www.cla.ca/resources/sch_tech.htm

UofT collect very good information on library job. You can check and get kind of sense what kind job for Librarian and Library Technician.
http://www.fis.utoronto.ca/resources/jobsite/index.htm
作者: student1    时间: 2004-2-22 22:36
Please go to www.ala.org and www.cla.ca to know much more about librarian

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Become a Librarian

Librarian Generalist

Career Profile (U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics)
The Top 10 Reasons to Be a Librarian
(article from American Libraries, October 2002)

Academic Librarian
Post-Master's Residency Programs

Research Library Residency & Internship Programs
Association of College and Research Libraries (ACRL) Recruiting to the Profession


Children and Youth Services Librarian (For a printer-friendly, text-only version)

Law Librarian

Medical Librarian

Music Librarian

Public Librarian

School Librarian
School Library Media Education Programs


Reference and Technical Services Librarian  


Educational Policies and Competencies
List of Educational Policy Statements compiled by the ALA Office for Accreditation


Support Staff
Library Assistant

Library Technician

Library Support Staff Resource Center

List of Support Staff Positions in Libraries
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CANADA
Alberta | British Columbia | Nova Scotia | Ontario | Quebec |

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Alberta
University of Alberta
School of Library and Information Studies
3-20 Rutherford South
Edmonton, AB, Canada T6G 2J4

Phone: 780-492-4578 Fax: 780-492-2430
slis@ualberta.ca www.slis.ualberta.ca/  
   
Anna E. Altmann, Acting Director   
Admissions Contact: Chair, Admssions Committee
Phone: 780-492-4578   

Degrees accredited by the American Library Association (with date of next review):
  Master of Library and Information Studies (2004)

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British Columbia
The University of British Columbia
School of Library, Archival and Information Studies
#301-6190 Agronomy Road
Vancouver, BC, Canada V6T 1Z3


Phone: 604-822-2404 Fax: 604-822-6006
www.slais.ubc.ca slais@interchange.ubc.ca
   
Edie Rasmussen, Professor & Director   
Admissions contact: Admissions Secretary
Phone: 604-822-2404  slais.admissions@ubc.ca
   

Degrees accredited by the American Library Association (with date of next review):
  Master of Library and Information Studies (2006)

   
Other degrees or certificates:
  Certificate of Advanced Study (post-Master)
Master of Archival Studies
First Nations Curriculum Concentration (Master's program)
Master of Archival Studies/Master of Library and Information Studies
Master of Arts in Children's Literature
Master of Arts/Master of Education (Teacher-Librarianship)
Ph.D.


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Nova Scotia
Dalhousie University
School of Library and Information Studies
Faculty of Management
Halifax, NS, Canada B3H 3J5

Phone: 902-494-3656 Fax: 902-494-2451
www.mgmt.dal.ca/slis/ slis@dal.ca
   
Fiona A. Black, Acting Director   
Admissions contact: Judy Dunn   

Degrees accredited by the American Library Association (with date of next review):
  Master of Library and Information Studies (2005)
   
Other degrees or certificates:
  MLIS/Bachelor of Laws
MLIS/MBA
MLIS/MPA
Bachelor of Management


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Ontario
University of Toronto
Faculty of Information Studies
140 St. George Street
Toronto, ON, Canada M5S 3G6

Phone: 416-978-8589 Fax: 416-978-5762
www.fis.utoronto.ca   
   
Brian Cantwell Smith , Dean
dean@fis.utoronto.ca
Admissions contact: Pamela Hawes hawes@fis.utoronto.ca

Degrees accredited by the American Library Association (with date of next review):
  Master of Information Studies (2010)
   
Other degrees or certificates:
  PhD

The University of Western Ontario
Graduate Programs in Library and Information Science
Faculty of Information and Media Studies
Middlesex College
London, ON, Canada N6A 5B7

Phone: 519-661-4017 Fax: 519-661-3506
fimsdean@julian.uwo.ca www.fims.uwo.ca/
   
Catherine Ross, Professor and Dean
Admissions contact: Phone: 519-661-4017
mlis@uwo.ca    or    phd@uwo.ca

Degrees accredited by the American Library Association (with date of next review):
  Master of Library and Information Science (2004)
   
Other degrees or certificates:  
  Ph.D. - Library and Information Science

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Quebec
McGill University
Graduate School of Library and Information Studies
3459 McTavish Street
Montreal, Quebec, Canada H3A 1Y1


Phone: 514-398-4204 Fax: 514-398-7193
www.gslis.mcgill.ca gslis@mcgill.ca
   
Jamshid Beheshti, Director   
Admissions contact: Dorothy Carruthers   

Degrees accredited by the American Library Association (with date of next review):
  Master of Library and Information Studies (2009)
   
Other degrees or certificates:  
  Ph.D. (Ad Hoc) - Library and Information Studies
Graduate Diploma in Library and Information Studies
Graduate Certificate in Library and Information Studies

Université de Montréal
Ecole de bibliothéconomie et des sciences de l'information
C.P. 6128, succursale Centre-Ville
Montréal, Québec, Canada H3C 3J7

Phone: 514-343-6044 Fax: 514-343-5753
www.fas.umontreal.ca/EBSI/   
   
Carol Couture, Directeur carol.coutre@umontreal.ca
Admissions contact: Diane Mayer diane.mayer@umontreal.ca

Degrees accredited by the American Library Association (with date of next review):
  Maîtrise en sciences de l'information (2007)
   
Other degrees or certificates:
  Doctorat en sciences de l'information (graduate)
Certificat en archivistique (undergraduate)
Certificat en gestion de l'information numérique (undergraduate)

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************************************************  Top] What these workers do

Librarians help people find facts. They organize information and help people locate books and other items. Librarians choose and buy books and magazines. They arrange the books and magazines so that people can find them. Many librarians work in teams to get the job done.

Some work in one subject such as art. Others read stories to children. Librarians work in schools and public libraries. They also work in special libraries, such as libraries at companies.

Today, most libraries have computers as well as books and magazines. Librarians may develop data bases for use in these computers. They also help people use the computer to find what they need.


[Top] What the job is like

Librarians generally work in nice places. They spend much of their time at their desks or at the computer. They spend time helping people. Many librarians like this part of the job best. Librarians may work part time or full time. Sometimes they have to work weekends or evenings. School librarians work when schools are open; they are off during school vacations. Special librarians usually work 40 hours a week.
They may work longer hours at busy times.


[Top] Jobs

Librarians held about 149,000 jobs in 2000. Most jobs were in schools. Other jobs were in public or special libraries. A few jobs were in hospitals or government agencies.

[Top] Preparing for the job

You need a master's degree in library science to be a librarian. Many schools offer library science programs. A college degree in any major can prepare you for the master's program. Most programs take 1 year to complete; some programs take 2 years. In most States, school librarians must have a teaching certificate.

Librarians should like to read and have good computer skills.

[Top] The future

Jobs for librarians are expected to grow more slowly than the average for all occupations over the 2000-10 period. The use of computers to store and retrieve information means that librarians can do more work in less time. It also means that others, such as library technicians, can handle some of the work instead of librarians. Replacing those who retire also will provide some jobs for librarians.

There are libraries in nearly every community. It is easier to find a job in a rural area than in a large city, where most graduates want to work.

More people are going to library school so the graduates face competition. Applicants with good computer skills are more likely to find jobs. Many of them find jobs in places other than libraries.


[Top] Pay

One half of all librarians earned between $ 32,840 and $52,110 a year in 2000. The lowest 10 percent earned less than $25,030. The highest 10 percent earned more than $62,990 a year.

[Top] Similar jobs

Archivists
Information scientists
Museum curators
Publishers' representatives
Research analysts
Information brokers
Records managers
School teachers

[Top] Where to look for more information

Disclaimer: Links to non-BLS Internet sites are provided for your convenience and do not constitute an endorsement.

American Library Association
Office for Human Resource Development and Recruitment
50 East Huron St.
Chicago, IL 60611
http://www.ala.org

Special Libraries Association
1700 18th St. NW.
Washington, DC 20009

Association for Library and Information Science Education
P.O. Box 7640
Arlington, VA 22207
http://www.alise.org

American Association of Law Libraries
53 West Jackson Blvd.
Suite 940
Chicago, IL 60604
http://www.aallnet.org

Medical Library Association
6 N. Michigan Ave.
Suite 300
Chicago, IL 60602
http://www.mlanet.org

Library of Congress
Human Resources Office
101 Independence Ave. SE.
Washington, DC 20504-2231

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2003 SALARY AND BENEFITS
Edited by Lindy Stephens
The 2003 CALL/ACBD Salary and Benefits survey was tabulated and analyzed by the
Dalhousie University Statistical Consulting Service. As was done with the last survey, this
survey was emailed to our members. In total, 325 surveys were sent and 160 or 49% of the
surveys were returned. I had anticipated that the rate of return would be better than in 2000
(45%) as more people are using email, etc., so the number of returned surveys is
disappointing.
The one surprising result of this survey is that average salaries have increased quite
substantially since 2000. Salaries increased an average of almost $10,000 by geographic area
and an average of over $11,000 by type of library. In 2000, 12% of the respondents made over
$70,000 while, in 2003, this percentage jumped to 33% and, in 2000, only 2% of the
respondents made over $90,000 while, in 2003, 9% were in this category.
Otherwise, survey results were consistent with previous surveys. Gender, type of
library, job position, education, and experience were statistically significant factors affecting
salaries.
Males still do make more on average ($71,000) than females ($60,800). Those in
academic libraries continue to make more money than those working in other library settings.
The academics average $81,000 while those in courthouse/law society libraries average
$55,900. Those in government libraries average $62,200 and those in the private/corporate
setting average $60,300. A librarian who supervises professionals averages $78,200 while a
librarian who has no administrative responsibilities averages $60,300. A librarian with a
MLS/BLS and a law degree averages more ($79,500) than a librarian with a MLS/BLS
($66,200). As the number of years of experience in law libraries increases, so does the average
salary ($52,500 for 1 - 5 years, $59,300 for 11 -15 years and $68,900 for 21 - 25 years).
Geographic region again proved to be less of a statistically significant factor. That said,
the lowest average salary is in Sask./Man. ($55,800) and the highest average salary is in
B.C./Yukon ($66,000).
As in the last survey, more respondents did receive a salary increase this past year,
92% as compared to 86% in 2000. Those receiving an increase of 1%-5% made up 80% of
the respondents while 12% received salary increases of 6% or more.
Factors Affecting Salaries
The following tables tabulate the average salary by factors influencing salaries. Where
relevant, some tables include the average salaries in the lower 10% and the upper 90% of
respondents. SE (Standard Error) indicates a possibility of the "average" being wrong by plus
or minus the amount. Note that where the SE is large it may be an indication that there were
very few respondents in that category.
作者: student1    时间: 2004-2-22 22:42
2003 survey for law librarian

SALARY BY GENDER
Gender Number Average Salary
Female 135 $60,800
Male 23 $71,000
SALARY BY TYPE OF LIBRARY
Library 10% Average 90% SE
Academic $57,500 $81,000 $97,500 3,210
Courthouse/Law Society $27,500 $55,900 $87,500 3,140
Government $52,500 $62,200 $72,500 2,480
Private/Corporate $37,500 $60,300 $77,500 1,780
SALARY BY GEOGRAPHIC REGION
Region Average SE
B.C./Yukon $66,000 2,500
Alberta/N.W.T. $56,600 3,300
Sask./Man. $55,800 7,070
Ontario $63,200 2,530
Quebec $64,600 3,040
Atlantic $61,600 4,010
SALARY BY JOB POSITION*
Position 10% Average 90% SE
Manager $57,500 $78,200 $97,500 1,970
(supervise professionals)

Manager (do not $37,500 $56,200 $72,500 2,470
supervise professionals)
Assistant Librarian $47,500 $63,000 $82,500 3,050
Librarian $42,500 $60,300 $97,500 5,340
Librarian in a $32,500 $49,700 $62,500 2,100
one or two person library
*one category was omitted because there were too few respondents
SALARY BY EDUCATION*
Education Average SE
MLS/BLS $66,200 1,490
MLS/BLS and Law Degree $79,500 4,570
Lib. Tech. Diploma $44,000 3,550
LTD/University Degree $45,600 3,980
University Degree $41,700 4,170
Other** $59,400 6,880
*three categories were omitted because there were too few respondents
**law degree, incomplete MISt, MMns and BFA; post-grad certificate; legal secretary
diploma; MISt and MA; MLS and graduate degree; MLS and MA; college diploma, not
library specific plus MA; MPA, MLIS and MA
SALARY BY YEARS OF EXPERIENCE (LAW LIBRARIES)*
Experience Average SE
1 - 5 years $52,500 3,140
6 - 10 years $58,100 2,620
11 - 15 years $59,300 2,980
16 - 20 years $65,200 3,510
21 - 25 years $68,900 3,710
26 or more $72,800 4,520
*one category was omitted because there were too few respondents
SALARY BY YEARS OF EXPERIENCE (ALL LIBRARIES)*
Experience Average SE
1 - 5 years $50,400 8,990
6 - 10 years $53,800 1,750
11 - 15 years $61,600 2,700
16 - 20 years $62,000 4,060
21 - 25 years $62,800 3,630
26 or more years $68,800 2,680
*one category was omitted because there were too few respondents
The next five tables list average salary by geographic region and type of library, by level of
education and type of library, by level of education and geographic region (new), by job
position and level of education, and by job position and type of library (new). Where the
number of respondents in any SIG category, any level of education category, or any job
position category was too few (fewer than 6) to ensure confidentiality, the information was not
included. However, where possible, the "average" is given for all types of libraries, for all
levels of education, and for all job positions.
SALARY BY GEOGRAPHIC REGION AND TYPE OF LIBRARY
Region Library Average SE
B.C./Yukon Private (18) $64,700 2,530
All (27) $66,000 2,500
作者: Apple1965    时间: 2004-2-24 23:00
It is nice to read so many interesting articles, especially in Chinese. It feels like a shame that I can't type in Chinese. Anyway, just a brief post to tell everyone that I enjoy reading the informative posts under this topic and I wonder if I can find any future classmates here. I am going to start my study this fall at McGill. My email is hyhangela@yahoo.ca and I am currently living in Toronto. I need to exchange information or get help from other since I have never been in Montreal and I don't know anyone directly. Hope to get response from some of you guys and I also want to thank all who provided either positive or negative feedback about the librarian profession. It gives me an idea of the whole picture. Thanks, everyone! I am glad someone told me this website!
作者: wagner    时间: 2004-2-25 16:55
men,上次你说你收到的录取信一共是一封还是两封?我今天收到了GSLIS的信,告诉我他们已经建议GRADUATE AND POSTDOCTORAL OFFICE录取我。
但同时又说要在七月前收到ETS发给他们的托福成绩原件(我上次只是给他们成绩单的COPY件)。
作者: leon_liu86    时间: 2004-2-25 21:34
Wagner,我收到的是两封,前后差4天,(虽然研究生院是第二天就决定录取了,但是它还是等到周末过了之后才把信寄出).
你可以叫ETS将TOEFL成绩直接给MCGILL,电话快点(2周内学校能收到),也可以给ETS发传真(这个就比较慢了,估计要1个月之内).
COPY件一般没有很大用处.学校都要原件.
作者: Apple1965    时间: 2004-2-27 07:17
Hi, does anyone have any experience applying for student loan? Would you mind sharing some? Is there any deadline applying for it? I was told that you may not qualify if you are still working but sometimes the truth is we can not afford not to work before we go back to school. I need some first hand experience in this respect especially from those people who came from other province. Men, seems like that we are from the same city but you may be too busy to answer any of my message. Anyway, hope this is the website where we can change information and find help whenever needed. Good luck everyone and have a wonderful day!
作者: wagner    时间: 2004-2-27 19:57
men和apple,我今天收到正式的ACCEPTANCE PACKAGE了。有一件事对我来说很麻烦,那就是证明QUEBEC居民身份的问题。我是属于在外省居住超三个月从而要求在魁省连续居住12个月的类型。除了身份证明,还要提供本人在这12个月或者工作的证明,或者读PART-TIME课程的证明,可问题是我都没有,我打工只打到12月底,现在一直在家,这种情况应该怎么办?有类似情况的朋友帮忙回答一下好吗,多谢!
另外,到目前为止拿到今年9月的MLIS录取信的有多少人,希望大家回帖报个到,以后大家都是同学,先认识认识,有什么问题也可以大家互相帮忙。
作者: Apple1965    时间: 2004-2-27 22:57
Congratulation, Wagner. Have you accepted the offer yet? I remember that the deadline is March 1. I paid the deposit at the end of January. I don't have experience about the question you asked. Sorry. I do need to apply for student loan though and I heard that the schoolarship or government funding is very limited. I still have to search for options. Hope that we can exchange info here pr those who had first hand experience before can be kind enough to offer some advice. I also need to start my apartment hunting soon and any help will be highly appreciated as well.
作者: wagner    时间: 2004-3-11 17:27
被mcgill的mba拒了。理由是大学成绩不够:平均分只有84分多!
以前只是听说mcgill比较死板,现在真是领教了。托福考293也没用。
现在手里还拿着mcgill的mlis的offer,请frank等各位以前读mlis的前辈,现在已经找到工作的,能否告诉我目前你们就业的工资水平到底是多少?听人说刚开始起薪只有两三万?那样的话和打工有什么区别?能拿到手的每月只有不到两千,怎么供得起房子和车,养活老婆孩子?
实在不行,只好放弃这个mlis,再去申请康大的mba了。
郁闷中。。。
作者: tu    时间: 2004-3-11 23:49
it really depends on your background. if the employer thinks your are valuable, you will get more. the entry level job is around 15-20$ per hour?i guess. but if you can't find a job, and someone wants to hire you by paying 8$ per hour, will you go? one of my classmates went. it's true.


Another thing wants to remind you: don't think the staff in mlis is much nicer than those of mba. most of them (faculty and students)especially those so callled "native canadians" are very narrow-mided.



Post by wagner
被mcgill的mba拒了。理由是大学成绩不够:平均分只有84分多!
以前只是听说mcgill比较死板,现在真是领教了。托福考293也没用。
现在手里还拿着mcgill的mlis的offer,请frank等各位以前读mlis的前辈,现在已经找到工作的,能否告诉我目前你们就业的工资水平到底是多少?听人说刚开始起薪只有两三万?那样的话和打工有什么区别?能拿到手的每月只有不到两千,怎么供得起房子和车,养活老婆孩子?
实在不行,只好放弃这个mlis,再去申请康大的mba了。
郁闷中。。。

作者: wagner    时间: 2004-3-12 15:24
tu你说得有道理。
这些天一直在琢磨到底去读什么,改行到底值不值得。
过一阵子在说吧。
作者: tu    时间: 2004-3-12 16:35
Another interesting thing i want to share with you: i know some native guys, they got jobs from mlis, but then they got another mba degree, and now they are the managers of information center which belongs to special library catory and usually with good salary. Like frank_p, he studied cs, politics, french and mlis, and all those enriched his background, i believe. here i am not recommanding you study forever, just to be objective to mlis.  


Post by wagner
tu你说得有道理。
这些天一直在琢磨到底去读什么,改行到底值不值得。
过一阵子在说吧。

作者: cgui    时间: 2004-4-5 01:28
我也拿到了2004年秋季入学的MLIS通知书,盼与大家互相联系。我的e-mail address:christinagui2003@yahoo.ca

另:致Thesis,能留下您的联系方式,想请教一些问题。谢!
作者: wagner    时间: 2004-4-5 10:34
我已经回绝了mcgill的mlis的offer。
想了许久,决定还是不去改行读mlis。虽然mcgill的mba没给我offer,我还是打算去申请concordia的mba
都说concordia的mba不好,我也知道。不过人终究是要靠自己的,学校的名气帮得了你一时,帮不了你一世。
作者: smiling girl    时间: 2004-4-24 14:21
转让mlis第一年4门必修课的全部教材,送相关笔记和资料。

有意请联系erica, 514-369-9078
作者: apple007    时间: 2004-7-15 12:11
标题: 请问在MCGILL读library MASTER专业的xdjm,本人不会法语,其他条件都符合,能得到offer吗?
请问在MCGILL读library MASTER专业的xdjm,本人不会法语,现在在montreal其他条件都符合,能得到offer吗?因为我想申请明年9月的,又不想浪费时间等它把我拒了,热切渴望你们的回复,谢谢。
作者: soup    时间: 2005-7-25 17:04
Post by ice_point
1. 首先要看一看你学了图书馆能干什么:其主要就业方向是在图书馆内做图书管理员,给图书编目和选书,做图书系统维护等。因为加拿大的双语制度,做图书管理员必须是有较强的人际交往能力和会流利的双语(英语和法语),这对绝大多数中国人来说是不可能的,基本上断掉了这一条路。最没有意思的工作是给图书编目,虽然对双语要求不高;做图书系统维护则是一个技术活,基本上与是否图书馆专业毕业关系不大。而所有这些的就业前景并不比其他专业的好,如果不是更差的话。
有鉴于此,许多人不愿意学这一行。从Frank_p的帖子中也可以看出,在11个中国人(其实在2001年由14个中国人,不知该贴何故减少了三个),只有两个男学生,其余皆为女士。这里不是说歧视女性,但也说明了学这一行的主要人选。
2. 其次:所谓的找到工作的人在干什么:如果从Fu Ping的帖子中的例子来看,在11个中国人中,小李只找到半职,极有可能是打杂的活;小张在不需要双语的明尼苏达地区找到一个图书管理员的职位,但与所谓的部门经理相差十万八千里,因为图书馆就她一个,而该公司几乎是总经理一个人,所以她可以“直接归总经理领导”;其他的几个人也是从事一些老外不愿意干的图书编目,上架等的体力活。而这已经是毕业一年半之后才如此。如果是刚毕业,可能情况会更差。至于洋洋得意的Fu Ping (从他自我介绍他所在的公司的情况可知其自豪程度)又怎么样呢?据他自己的帖子所说,他是因为先学了计算机找不到工作才学的图书馆,而他现在从事的工作极可能是技术维护,而非什么图书馆的专业活;也就是说,是因为他的计算机背景而不是图书馆北京才让其找到工作。如果你也要学图书馆,你有计算机背景吗?
3. 与此相关的是,要学图书馆,你必须有另外一个背景才有可能找到工作,否则,图书馆本身不能给你带来任何东西
4. 贴中所说的MLIS是文科,所以要什么学术性英语,更是笑谈,说是技术性英语可能还差不多,你只要看一看开设的课程就明白了,中国学生能够真正在学术性英语上得A A-的极少;至于“图书馆是为主流文化服务的”更不值得一说,也许是为了把它说成主流文化可以为学图书馆的人提高一下身价。那么多中国学生“团结互助”,当然有积极的一面,但更多是因为他们英语太差,老外不愿意搭理他们,所以这些学生就互助起来,“互相抄作业,应付考试,对付老师”。这才是‘团结互助’的真相。
5. 还有所谓的“主流文化”,要知道在加拿大这个多元文化的社会里,没有谁是主流文化。中国人在外面(无论你入籍与否)一定要不卑不亢,别一幅崇洋媚外的样子。什么“文明社会的准入”,什么“入门证”,给人的感觉是你刚从原始社会出来似的。

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作者: lightmotor    时间: 2007-4-17 03:21
标题: 请问
各位04年入学MLIS的近况如何?




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