希望众朋友相助。谢谢。作者: 依然如故 时间: 2002-7-17 09:18
当然是上WATERLOO大学了，康大这个学校太烂了，以前我还以为是康奈尔呢？有了WATERLOO的牌子你到那里找工作不愁啊。作者: Yizhao 时间: 2002-7-17 11:40
In US, Waterloo is more famous than all the schools in Montreal. You have the chance of going to the best graduate school after study from Waterloo.作者: phantom77 时间: 2002-7-17 12:37
Agree with fisherbird. waterloo is good for computing study. other major is really so so... according to one of my relatives who graduated from that school. btw, why just apply those two universities???作者: huqijun 时间: 2002-7-17 20:28
我想：滑铁卢毕业真的好找工作吗？如果数学系转不了精算，就业前景岂不是很惨。学校的名气和就业前景成正比吗？我听说康大金融找工作很容易，但极难读。是吗？作者: Franckey 时间: 2002-7-17 21:40
您看，这么多人讲康大不好，就别犹豫了作者: 清风翻书 时间: 2002-7-17 22:54
我看未必。
滑铁卢大学名气大，但数学专业出来后干啥？当老师呀？
康大烂吗？？？听说金融和精算就业都是极好的。
中国学生是不是太注重名气而忽略了教育的实质了。作者: Seanruan 时间: 2002-7-17 23:01
有没有搞错哦！这个还要犹豫！当然是WATERLOO！！！两个学校根本不是一个档次的！你CONCORDIA毕业最多就是在加拿大找工作有点用，出了加拿大怎么办？WATERLOO现在名气全加最大，特别在美国绝对在多大之上。
数学系有什么不好，要转计算机，EE，精算都是易如反掌。WATERLOO的计算机这么有名，全靠它的数学系撑着的。老兄，不要犹豫了，北美还是很看重毕业的学校的。作者: 清风翻书 时间: 2002-7-18 08:37
我觉得这个问题是个很好的问题。是每个人都可能遇到的问题。
大家应该都来讨论一下。一是帮他出出主意，二是就这个机会多思考一下在加受教育的问题。作者: Yizhao 时间: 2002-7-18 09:02
"康大金融找工作很容易?" ----After graduation, you can go to COFI again.
But Waterloo is very tough, very very tough. It is not strange that you hear somebody fail in that school. Both domestic and international,
Waterloo is well recognized as the most perspective univ of Canada. I never hear their graduates worry about jobs.作者: curious-man 时间: 2002-7-18 09:33
huqijun，申请waterloo的条件要求高吗，就你自己的情况给讲一讲。作者: skytrain 时间: 2002-7-18 14:46
我也碰到这个问题.今年三月被Concordia的John Molson School of Business的Fiance专业录取,七月底到Montreal机票都订好了(不能退),现在又收到University of Albert和 University of Calgary的 Economics专业录取(不是商学院).问中国人,都说去Alberta,问这里的外国人,他们说该去Concordia.我都愁死了,不知该去那个学校.另外,这三个学校我都答应去了,到时不去会不会有麻烦?大伙帮我出出主意.
:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: 作者: Professional 时间: 2002-7-18 16:12
Ha,
Let’s jump to the conclusion first: cancel your ticket, burn your passport and stay where you are. The bottom line is: make your money worth!
University of Alberta Plus University of Calgary: third-tier in North America, and to make matters worse, you pick the wrong major. Sorry. But, if you are young enough (below 23), use that painful experience as a leverage, and head for a Ph.D at US top 10, or LBS or INSEAD or Cambridge.
Concordia, well, what can I say? You’ve seen the best of the best at Concordia-wangba…
So, professional conclude: For this particular high-school, “garbage in and garbage out” is only a compliment.
Now, you decide.作者: phantom77 时间: 2002-7-18 17:38
I guess the key problem here is most ppl think overall reputation of Concordia and Waterloo is not at the same level. if you were also got admitted by McGill or Toronto with your first-choice major, then the choice would be much easier.
So at least you should make sure if you are in a position to transfer ur major in waterloo, otherwise it's really not very attractive to get a pure math bachelor degree even if it's from Princeton.
In short, get to know urself what you really want to do in the furture.作者: phantom77 时间: 2002-7-18 17:51
as far as i know, finance and accounting in concordia are not bad. only if u choose Economics, then as Professional said, PhD is a must to get a decent analysis job in financial institutions or be a professor. Actually, i think good working experience (e.g. as an associate in BCG or a analyst in TD bank) is much more useful than get a PhD in North America. In China, it seems every companies are fighting for masters, phds to fillfull their overqulified positions.作者: 依然如故 时间: 2002-7-18 18:01
当然去WATERLOO了，明年我也可能去了，要是MCGILL不入我，我还有一点受不了了——看英语很累又看不懂求求各位以后不要写英语了。作者: skytrain 时间: 2002-7-19 01:42
Hi,Buddy;
Shut your big mouth up!Professional,you are so mean.I remember you are in Winsor University. Shame of you! You are garbage!Kick you out of Canada!
请大家继续出主意，我脑子越来越乱了。作者: curious-man 时间: 2002-7-19 08:00
how is your GPA?作者: Professional 时间: 2002-7-19 08:34
Skyrain,
Ha, what’s wrong with you? I was trying to help! Now I gave up.
You losers don’t deserve any serious attention, ignoring for the moment the fact that you do have a sense of shame, in this particular case. ---You became surprisingly aroused after being whispered the truth, for instance.
It was you, who made the decision to be a loser. No excuse, please.
Furthermore, any hostile allegation that evolved from a normal personal attack proved to be futile. Cheerleading activities will not stop you equally from precipitous migration to a real loser as well as my real “mean” comments that come with it. I remain…作者: Liux1998 时间: 2002-7-19 09:59
Refer to the Gourman Ranking for
Undergraduate Electrical Engineering Programs
40 University of Waterloo 4.55
41 Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute 4.54
42 Johns Hopkins University 4.53
43 Rice University 4.52
44 Brown University 4.50
44 University of Windsor 4.50
46 University of Wisconsin- Madison 4.49
47 Lakehead University 4.46
47 University of Arizona 4.46
47 Universite de Sherbrooke 4.46
50 University of California- San Diego 4.45
51 Concordia University 4.44作者: jojo4fun 时间: 2002-7-19 14:15
Your Gourman's ranking is 4 years ago!!
SOURCE:
Compiled from The Gourman Report,
Undergraduate Programs,
10th Edition 1998, Dr. Jack Gourman,
Princeton Review Publishing, NY, USA作者: tryit 时间: 2002-7-19 20:15
I don't know what situation like in North American. In China, even the worst student in the worst department of Tshinghua U. can find a good job! I can name several examples.
In my option, regardless budget, Waterloo and Albert!作者: william_lee 时间: 2002-7-20 15:48
我觉得我们在国内关于大学好与差的看法，在这里不太适用。不是任何综合排名高的名校，它所有的学生都是一流的，所有的专业也都是一流的。比如说WATERLOO，据我所知，它的COMPUTER SCIENCE是拳头专业，在加拿大是很热手的，学这个专业的很多学生，本地学生中的大多数是因为热爱这门学问才拼命钻研，和我们有些中国同学的想法不一样，中国同学想的是将来学出来是否能挣大钱，找好工作，一旦该专业的就业市场暗淡，就没有兴趣学了。所以别以为在这个专业上面，中国同学能比老外聪明。数学和金融专业也很类似。本地学生和我们在国内差不多，懒散和家里有关系的，都不爱学这些要下工夫，吃苦的专业，就是读了，将来前途和我们这些移民也是不能同日而语的。
所以选择大学要看自己将来的就业能力，比如数学专业，我身边还没有几位是因为学习数学专业在这里转了什么精算，经济类专业而出人头第的，也许是小弟见识浅，欢迎有经验的同胞补充。金融专业就业面比较窄，学起来也很苦，WATERLOO的金融专业，每个学期每门课不能低于75分，否则出门。我好象还没听说CONCORDIA也有类似的规定。
WATERLOO是安省近几年来崛起的一所学校，在安省的知名比在我们这里高，所以你问本地的老外，都说CONCORDIA好，因为他们认为你将来在MONTREAL找工作呀？
上什么大学，学什么专业，要看你将来想做什么，去哪里发展，就象读MBA，在本地的发展就很局限了。另外学习这么辛苦的专业，需要一份爱才能坚持，希望你不要纯粹为了钱去学，否则等你读完了，这个专业暂时赚不到什么钱，你一定要后悔当初的选择了。作者: huqijun 时间: 2002-7-21 00:42
有道理有道理作者: haohaoxuexi 时间: 2002-8-11 08:26
有一点提醒一下：
在魁省的移民十个中有八个被康大拒绝过。
不包括付国际学生费的。作者: haohaoxuexi 时间: 2002-8-11 08:29
如果是COMPUTER专业当然是WATERLOO。
但是数学专业则须考虑考虑。作者: actuary 时间: 2002-8-24 22:38
困惑中请教：收到了几个精算本科的录取通知：最难决定是选择去曼尼托巴大学（U of Manitoba）的精算还是留在蒙城读康考迪亚（Concordia);犹豫的原因是因为曼大有个独立的精算研究中心，号称是北美最古老的精算专业之一；而康大可以享受较多的bursary并且免除千里奔波之苦，有人知道曼大的精算能比康大好很多吗？是否值得我再找房安家？（另可否有人最近去曼尼托巴省或温尼佩winnipeg可以同行）作者: sinoq挖坑第二高 时间: 2005-3-31 19:46
提示: 作者被禁止或删除 内容自动屏蔽作者: 王杰1234 时间: 2005-4-1 19:29
公司里好象不需要精算理论很深的学者吧（特别是刚参加工作的），很多东西都是已经定型的了，拿来用就可以了。很多学精算的，在这里都没有找到工作；而在国内，一个保险公司，几个精算师就够了。作者: frank1w1 时间: 2005-4-1 23:11
Don't stay in Quebec unless you can communicate well in French. Otherwise you just make your life miserable. Job perspect is very bad and opportunity is limited for anglophone. I have been to Calgary, there things are much better. You only have English to deal with. If you have chance I advise you to go University of Calgary or University of Alberta, don't stay in Montreal or you will make the same mistake as I did.
Also go to University of Waterloo, not Concordia. What can you do after graduate from Concordia, can you get a job in Quebec? do you speak French? Are you billigual? Go to Ontario or Calgary now until it is too late.
