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作者: corn    时间: 2002-10-21 19:20
标题: 爱上了一个上海女人, 我想娶她...
我想我是陷进去了. 原本只想找个人打发孤单的日子. 可是现在我已无法自拔.

我有一份挺像样的工作, 在Cisco作系统工程师. 可能是两年前出来的原因吧. 曾经在大学时经历过一场撕心裂肺的恋爱. 后来我读了研, 工作, 移民.

三个月前我认识了她, 她是个新出来的学生. 25岁, 上海姑娘, 却略有些丰满. 可能上海女孩在我眼里都很苗条. 说实话她并不起眼, 至少开始的时候. 认识她是在一个朋友的聚会上.

我从朋友处得到了她的电话, 同时也知道了她有男友. 我没有多想, 反正当时我并没有认真的念头. 我常打电话给她, 偶尔她会同意我开车去接她出来, 经常我们总是切磋一下厨艺, 慢慢我发现她特别聪明, 我在清华读书的时候都没遇到过. 还有她把学习看的很重, 这是我欣赏的.

一次, 我感觉她很失意, 我知道她内心很孤独, 但她总是显得很坚强. 就在那次我把她抱上了床, 毕竟我32岁了, 知道如何让女人快乐. 令我惊讶的是她竟那样的投入, 那么会享受性. 后来我发现我爱上了她, 因为我常常很坐立不安, 心理全是她的样子. 我太了解自己了, 我是一个太冷静理性的人, 这让我怀疑最初我留意她也不仅是以为孤单. 我是个能独自生活一辈子的人.

当我告诉她我的想法, 她只是笑笑摇摇头. 我能给她一个稳定的生活, 给她一个身份, 我1米82, 很健壮, 身体很好, 也可以算是挺帅的. 而且即使我没有什么, 我也会为了她去努力的, 可是她却拒绝了, 而不愿告诉我为什么, 我真的陷了进去.

我知道她在远方有个男友, 可是难道只是因为那个他吗? 谁能告诉我...

我真的想娶她... ...
作者: O'Neil    时间: 2002-10-21 20:08
In today's socity, it is rare to find emotional man like you taking the relationship still serious.
作者: Wailingwall    时间: 2002-10-21 21:25
女人需要的是感觉,那是难以捉摸的东西。即使她们自己都说不清楚的。可能她只是为了摆脱那天的孤独吧,可能在国内的那份感情更让她难以忘怀吧,毕竟25岁的女生还是浪漫多于理性的。所以咯。。。如果爱她就去坚持。。或许哪天她感觉突然来了那。。WHO KNOWS
作者: xiaoyue    时间: 2002-10-21 21:29
Hello Tsinghua Shi Ge    

  First, I am very impressed by your feelings and love towards this Shanghai girl... lucky her

  Still, I would like to share the following with you and wish you could cheer up. Life is good and at the end of each day, your own happiness is the most important thing.

  Cheer up... Live each day to its fullest and enjoy life.

  Maybe Life wants us to meet a few wrong people before meeting the right one, so that when we finally meet the right person, we will know how to be grateful for that gift.

  When the door of happiness closes, another opens, but often times we look long at the closed door that we don’t see the one which has been opened for us.

  It’s true that we don’t know what we’ve got until we lose it, but it’s also true that we don’t know what we’ve been missing until it arrives.
作者: MJ    时间: 2002-10-21 22:00
because you are not that type she like. She is young, she is still have a dream to have perfect love.
作者: 0o0    时间: 2002-10-21 22:10
25岁的女生现实的可怕!
作者: richelye    时间: 2002-10-21 22:48
Corn:
以我的经验,你还是有机会的。1996年,我被公司从上海调去广州工作。当时我的男朋友和我所有的朋友都让我不要离开上海,但是为了能够在工作上有发展前途,我还是去了。离开上海的时候,也挺挂念男朋友的。可是分开两地久了,自然没有以前那种恋爱的感觉了。我们从男女朋友变成了一般朋友,而我在广州的时候,有个比我大13岁的peter追求我,有段时间我会矛盾不知取舍,后来我对peter说,从我们发生亲密关系1年起,如果1年后我们还是象现在这样好,我们就不分开了。之后,peter和我在1年后结婚了。因为大家都在一个沟通明了的状态中,距离近的会有优势。所以你还是很有机会的。顺便说一句,peter在遇到我之前,都是报定独身的,当你真的接受对方时,观念会变的。还有,上海的女人很小资的,向往一种比较舒逸,情调的生活方式。
作者: phantom77    时间: 2002-10-21 23:51
上海女孩子, 都比较懂得享受生活(所谓的小资情调吧),特别是一些聪慧的女孩, 她们在感情上多数是摇摆不定的. 即使有了男朋友, 她们也会在其他的男孩中寻找更优秀的. 在爱情上,她们往往追求浪漫的感觉,但又是非常非常的现实, 处于矛盾之中.
我想,在她的眼里你也许是优秀的,所以你们之间既有互相欣赏,也有正常的生理需求. 但是回到现实中, 她可能自己已经作了比较(如在上海的男友,家庭因素,自己以后的发展,等等), 感觉是不可能的.
作者: blueangell    时间: 2002-10-22 00:22
phantom,你.........好像蛮有经验的嘛  wink
作者: 鱼腥草    时间: 2002-10-22 01:26
如果说相遇是注定的话,之后发生的一切便顺其自然。爱情中了游戏的圈套就会失去意义……
作者: L’AUTOMNE    时间: 2002-10-22 11:42
1。女人与外交家:

一个女人,如果她说“不”,那表示“可能”,如果她说“可能”,那表示“是”,如果一个女人说“是”,那她就不是一个女人了。

外交家则相反,如果他说“是”,则意味着“可能”,如果他说“可能”,则表示“不”,如果他说“不”,那就不是一个外交家了。

2。女人如果对你说:“我恨你!”, 就意味着她喜欢你女人要说“我不恨你!”,那就意味着她也不爱你。

3。 女人说“你真坏!”,实际上是意味着她喜欢你,但女人说:“你是个好人!”,那估计你没希望了。
作者: wazi    时间: 2002-10-22 12:49
上海妹妹最爱,
肚兜短裤吊带,
只要心情不坏,
天天喜欢做爱,
姿势千奇百怪,
招招命中要害,
还非要和老外!
作者: CNN    时间: 2002-10-22 13:35
Nice job, wazi!!
作者: Juliet    时间: 2002-10-22 15:30
我觉得一个25岁的女人如果很成熟,就一定很世故。她想要的或许不仅是身份,稳定的生活,帅不帅的问题,还有很多别的,比如一定的社会地位(我只是猜)。她现在才25岁,当然明白还有很多选择机会的。
作者: wang8    时间: 2002-10-22 15:57
1.78 M is not that tall.
your muscular may not be that muscular in that girls eyes.
tsinghua is not such a good school.
system engeneer working for csco doesn't sound that impressing.
self claimed good love making skill may not be that skillful.
so the question remains, "you qualification maybe ok for some chinese but will a shanghainese marry you?"
作者: 世风日下    时间: 2002-10-22 17:56
Wang8, you are really a philosopher.
作者: fallen_angel    时间: 2002-10-22 19:51
Correct me if I am wrong.  All I got from what you wrote, is that, you are handsome, tall, rich, with a loving heart, and she is not so pretty, chubby, poor student. You think you are more competitive than her, but she doesn't want to marry a stud like you.

Handsome, tall, rich doesn't make you a better man... There's something called personality... "反正当时我并没有认真的念头" from this I can't see you don't have a great personality to love.  I think she is smart, she can see that you won't be the one to share life together.   

and I don't like the topic you entitled. Love has nothing to do with where she came from.  Does the title means you are ashamed to love someone from Shanghai, or proud to love someone from shanghai?

There's a great sound is perfectly for you, by Shania Twain-- that don't impress me much

I've known a few guys who thought they were pretty smart
But you've got being right down to an art
You think you're a genius-you drive me up the wall
You're a regular original, a know-it-all
Oh-oo-oh, you think you're special
Oh-oo-oh, you think you're something else
Okay, so you're a rocket scientist
That don't impress me much
So you got the brain but have you got the touch
Don't get me wrong, yeah I think you're alright
But that won't keep me warm in the middle of the night
That don't impress me much

I never knew a guy who carried a mirror in his pocket
And a comb up his sleeve-just in case
And all taht extra hold gel in your hair oughtta lock it
'Cause Heaven forbid it should fall outta place

Oh-oo-oh, you think you're special
Oh-oo-oh, you think you're something else

Okay, so you're Brad Pitt
That don't impress me much
So you got the looks but have you got the touch
Don't get me wrong, yeah I think you're alright
But that won't keep me warm in the middle of the night
That don't impress me much

You're one of those guys who likes to shine his machine
You make me take off my shoes before you let me get in
I can't believe you kiss your car good night
C'mon baby tell me-you must be jokin', right!

Oh-oo-oh, you think you're special
Oh-oo-oh, you think you're something else

Okay, so you've got a car
That don't impress me much
So you got the moves but have you got the touch
Don't get me wrong, yeah I think you're alright
But that won't keep me warm in the middle of the night

That don't impress me much
You think you're cool but have you got the touch
Don't get me wrong, yeah I think you're alright
But that won't keep me warm on the long, cold, lonely night
That don't impress me much

Okay, so what do you think you're Elvis or something...
Whatever
That don't impress me
作者: ken8023    时间: 2002-10-22 20:33
找到爱,当然是好事情。但怎样控制自己去爱,学会保护自己才是真。上海女人,很现实的,现实的你都无法想象。我刚刚分手的女朋友就是上海人。我了解的。
作者: pj    时间: 2002-10-22 21:11
"我有一份挺像样的工作, 在Cisco作系统工程师"
"毕竟我32岁了, 知道如何让女人快乐. "
"我是一个太冷静理性的人"
"我能给她一个稳定的生活, 给她一个身份, 我1米82, 很健壮, 身体很好, 也可以算是挺帅的. 而且即使我没有什么, 我也会为了她去努力的, "
我怎么觉得有点象征婚启示?不太象真实的心情故事!!!
作者: 世风日下    时间: 2002-10-23 00:45
以下文章为转贴:
  
我看上海女孩娶不得ZT

一个上海女孩落到北方小伙子堆里,会发生什么情况,大家都是知道的。不少人就是会叶公好龙。写什么“上海女孩娶不得”。为什么上海女孩娶不得。据说有诸多毛病。

首先:要价高。
良鸟择木而栖。法拉利不可能卖小夏利的价钱,上海女孩如果是全国、全世界身价最高的,上海人应该值得骄傲。据说,当年的貂婵就是一个高价姑娘。难怪,有些人找到一个上海女朋友就要到处卖弄。谁也没有卖弄说:我泡了个北京的马子。

话说过来,有什么人找配偶会按图索冀,上海好象还是中国最早消灭买卖婚姻地方。当代女孩子的价目表只是唬人的东西。如果,你能吸引她,没什么条件,那女孩也会跟定你;反之,你不能吸引她,够条件她也不一定就会答理。

其次:懒。找老婆,不考虑有无共同语言,先考虑勤懒。我还以为是找女佣。这也反映部分人的择偶观。一次在外地和几个北方女孩子聚餐,她们好奇的向我打听,在上海男人真的会烧菜、洗碗、做家务,那种不可思议的眼神,简直像原始人见到电视机。我这个会做家务的小男人也被奚落了一番。餐毕,我提议按北方规矩女人刷碗,却不见有人动手,还一致提议按上海规矩办。同样几年前在上海,一次和几个女同事吃工作餐,餐毕,大家都懒得动手刷碗,推来退去。最后,我提议我来刷碗,那几个上海女孩,马上动手,七手八脚的把碗刷了,最后说了句这不是男孩干的活。因为,上海的男女关系相对平等,所以给人印象上海女孩懒。但是,就我个人感觉,中国南方人,不论男女都普遍比北方人略勤快些。

但是上海的计划生育搞得好,所以独生子女率高,娇生惯养确实有。有个电影,剧中吴倩莲饰演的被崇坏了的富家女,为了刘德华饰演的男主角做了一锅夹生饭。爱就是那么神奇。但是作为一个男人,难道忍心看着化学洗涤剂腐蚀爱妻的玉手,厨房的油烟熏黄曾令你心怡的脸。既然是个有抱负的男人就应该有信心雇个用人,而不是娶个用人。

另外,还有诸多缺点。如果,一个女孩子故意把那么多缺点暴露在某人面前,说明她对此人全无好感,而且此人认为有可能是胡搅蛮缠的家伙。这是一种针对最不受欢迎(拎勿清)的求爱者使用的拒绝方式。

上海女孩娶不得(得到的得),反映的实际是上海女孩娶不到。为什么娶不到。

中国之大,各地人的思维观念的差距是很悬殊的。比如,北方多是些个个胸怀大志,一屋不扫便能扫平天下伟丈夫,而上海出的是些讲究先修身、齐家,再谈治国、平天下的小市民。所以,上海的国民生产总值是北京的两倍,中国科学院里沪籍院士是京籍院士的六倍,部长级以上干部竟是上海小男人,难觅北京大丈夫。

这种思想观念的差异在男女地位关系和婚姻关系上也会产生断层。有位嫁过北方人的上海老知青对我说,她对女儿的婚姻最大的要求就是嫁个正宗上海人。

这些思想观念的差异,有时在一言一行中都会反映出来。有一次某北方发达地区的男士骄傲地说:“我在家里从来不打老婆”,言下之意他已经是北方尊重妇女的楷模了。前些年《上海人在东京》播出后,就有人提出陈道明是演不象上海男人的。比如,和女士同行,上海男人会自然地为女士拉个门什么的,陈只会把手放在口袋里。

回到主题,就像一个阿拉伯人要求一个欧美女子成为他妻室中的一员,会有什么结果,同样如果一个不具备成为上海女婿的人向某上海姑娘求爱会有什么结果。
作者: blueangell    时间: 2002-10-23 08:34
Agree with fallen_angel and I don't like the topic you entitled either.  The topic shows that you are just an ordinary man, however your job is ... ...  

You may be a good man but not good enough to deserve a good and smart girl. There IS a kind of girl who will immediately say "Yes" when you propose to her with your "身份","1米82","身体很好", of course including some Shanghai girls. But not this one.

Feel sad for you because you have the ability to find a good woman but do not have the ability to win her heart. That's one of the worst things in this world.
作者: whamor    时间: 2002-10-23 10:58
听一个朋友说他朋友的上海老婆常叱喝他干活。大家小心被奴役啊。        

不过发现上海女孩挑老公的时候是比较的理性,不像普通女孩那样的感性。  :cool:  
(惨了,不知道会不会被朋友用西瓜砸死。。。  :p  )
作者: caprion    时间: 2002-10-23 11:50
Now it looks the topic changed to Shanghai girl now. fallen_angel, i am sure you are a shanghainess, don't copy other people's article and paste in BBS.

corn: Continue to f*uck this shanghai girl untill she ask you to marry her. She is not pretty, she is not smart, she is dumb.
作者: nortel8    时间: 2002-10-23 12:09
I am pretty sure I slept with this girl when I was at Montreal, she is good love-maker. Corn, you can make her pregant and then say the you had wang8's baby!!
作者: grammar    时间: 2002-10-23 12:40
Fallen-angle did a good job. That song is exactly for those who think themselves are something.

I also don't understand why he put the location in the title. I don't see if she is a typical shanghainese girl! When it comes to love, there is no reason. No matter where is she from and no matter how excellent you think of yourself.
作者: bukit    时间: 2002-10-23 13:10
不在乎自己的女人不是处女的男人不是真正的男人。懂得享受性的女人?Sainte Catherine 街上多得是,都娶回家?
作者: bihappy    时间: 2002-10-23 13:21
照bukit的观点,真正的男人都是中国卫道士。那个真正的女人会对他们感兴趣?
作者: bukit    时间: 2002-10-23 19:46
照双喜的观点,真正的女人都是随便和男人上床的女人?或者说和不止一个男人上床的女人才是真正的女人?  eek!
作者: corn    时间: 2002-10-23 21:18
我读了大家的看法. 可能我不该用上海女人为题吧.

我去找她谈了, 以下是她的想法:
    她说她不想改变自己的生活. 她说她现在的学业是她和男友对未来道路计划的一部分. 她说每个人都会遇到一些诱惑的, 如果每次都改变原来的追求对她来说太累了, 而且对她来说也不会有真正的幸福可言了. 她反问我"如果我跟了你, 你难道就不担心我会因为遇到别人再改变吗?" 我无语.
    我最后问她, 我和她男友比谁优秀? 她告诉我她从来没比较过.  
    反正我觉得我是输了.
作者: 小小天使    时间: 2002-10-23 21:28
故事编造不错吗.
         
作者: xiaoyue    时间: 2002-10-23 21:38
Hello again,

  It really doesn't matter whether she is from Shanghai or not. What's more important is that you find the one that makes your heart smile.

  Don’t go for looks; they can deceive.
  Don’t go for wealth; even that fades away.
  Go for someone who can make you smile because it takes only a smile to make a dark day seem bright.
  
  Cheer up and be happy! Look at the maple leaves and enjoy the blue sky.

  The brightest future will always be based on a forgotten past. Don't look at the closed door for too long.

  So when it is time to move on, let go of your past failures and heartaches.    

Also, just a side note: I don't want to comment on a girl who claims that she has a boy friend but at the same time, sleeps with other people...   :confused:  

Wear your glasses and look closer  eek!
作者: yiyu    时间: 2002-10-23 21:42
我觉得这个故事是真实的。
作者: xiaoyue    时间: 2002-10-23 21:47
I think it is a true story as well... That's why I made the effort to register myself with Sinoquebec... hopefully, it is worth the efforts    What's your say, Corn  :confused:
作者: pathfinder    时间: 2002-10-23 21:59
如果你想锻炼你的恋爱技巧, 去追上海作(平声)女人.
作者: 小小天使    时间: 2002-10-23 22:00
the story is true or not shouldn't be difficult to find out, since i have a few friends at Cisco, and i know most students here from shanghai, especially he mentioned she’s only been here 3 months.
作者: bihappy    时间: 2002-10-23 22:20
bukit: 你把"随便上床"跟"非处女"划上了等号,这是对所有女性的不尊重,包括你的母亲。
作者: SpringYi    时间: 2002-10-23 22:38
一帮傻男傻女在出馊主意...

女人靠的多是感觉,感觉对了,自然可以

不管是上海女人还是广州女人还是甘肃女人,都是理性感性都要有的,光在那里讲条件,或者光在那里讲感情都不行

我感觉这个清华的哥们没什么恋爱的经验,对女人还不得法门。

你轻松点,成熟点,对她有点 居高临下 的感觉,然后再诙谐一点,调皮一点,一般来说都能打动女人的心

Good luck
作者: tropical    时间: 2002-10-23 22:41
我是上海女人,很实际。要我就不会嫁给你。婚后你有意无意的暗示,不是你我不会有生分。上海女人受不了这气。离婚后,还要背个其貌不扬的上海女人也敢甩CICICO的帅哥的罪名。压力实在太大。    
你要把自己心态放平,这情况胜算实在很大。祝你好运。
作者: ^-^    时间: 2002-10-23 22:53
玉米,
你要捡痴猪,胜利是属于泥地  :p    :p    :p
作者: Nedved    时间: 2002-10-23 23:19
世茂滨江买好,一切都解决了
作者: 随心    时间: 2002-10-24 00:06
都32岁了,还叽叽歪歪的,谁敢嫁给你?!
作者: seriousplayer    时间: 2002-10-24 10:53
why want 上海女人?
I like girls from northern china.
Simple and Lovely.
作者: bukit    时间: 2002-10-24 11:40
双喜:
作者提到‘三个月前我认识了她’,注意‘认识’时还没开始追求。现在就已上过床了,而且她还有男友,根本不打算跟这个傻哥。这不叫‘随便’什么叫?问问你母亲会这样吗?别管她是哪儿的,这种女人。。。不过倒是和这傻哥挺配的,反正他也不在乎。
作者: CNN    时间: 2002-10-24 15:19
Corn,

You are 32 now, not 23. In six month, have sex with a girl is kind of slow, but ask her to marry you is too fast, too fast. It looks you really don't have much experience. You still have chance since her boyfriend is not here, This is my suggestion:

(1) Don't talk marriage anymore, continue to f*uck her, take care of her and after another she may ask you to marry her

(2) Date with other girls and let her know you are f*ucking other girls too.
作者: bihappy    时间: 2002-10-24 21:32
bukit: On this point, I totally agree with you. Well, 3 months is not a problem if they love each other seriously...the problem is she has a boyfriend in Shanghai!   

Anyways it's not good to sleep around no matter that person is male or female, right?

Your first post seemed like "non-virgin" and "women who enjoy sex" are not acceptable. Don't you thik it's unfair for women? Will you agree to prove your virginaity to your girlfriend if she can prove she is a virgin?   wink    :p
作者: xiaoyue    时间: 2002-10-24 21:37
Shuang Xi!

Very good points! I support your view on this fully and unconditionally   
作者: SpringYi    时间: 2002-10-25 00:25
这个恶心话题看了半天,就CNN这个弟兄说了几句老经验的话..

其他的真他妈的鬼扯淡!!!

什么上海女人与北方女人性格不同,什么要痴心打动她,什么如何如何,都是鬼扯淡!!!

一帮小孩子,都回家睡觉去!
作者: tetanos    时间: 2002-11-25 17:57
How old are you, may I ask?
作者: nortel8    时间: 2002-11-25 18:39
Xiaoyue,

Are you a divorced woman?
作者: Manda    时间: 2002-11-25 18:42
我想那个女生是个比较专一的人, 国内男朋友也许是她的梦想, 没有那么容易放弃的.
作者: rosewiththorns    时间: 2002-11-25 20:11
看来不仅是北京丫头娶不得。高兴啊,有垫背的了,谢谢你上海女孩。
原来那个《北京女孩不能娶》的帖字谁还有?我想温故知新。
作者: 任逍遥    时间: 2002-12-17 02:35
有点饥不择食的味道,偷种了人家的地,还想占有?         




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