所以请保留爱情的火种在心底最深处,即使在与生活和邪恶和善良的抗争和抉择种,请依然让希望和追求的火焰在你的眼中跳跃.作者: will*chen 时间: 2003-9-13 12:15
我相信缘分天注定!因我的婚姻就是一例,祝福天下所有渴望爱情的人!!!作者: mlusa 时间: 2003-9-16 09:13
Actually Puccini died before he could finish this opera. So the ending was added by someone else - Would Puccini have chosen to let Liu die? Also in that opera, Puccini used the melody from Chinese folk music.
To Freshland - Glad to see there are some opera fans here. Puccini is one of my favorites too.作者: cy65 时间: 2003-9-16 09:37
j,真正一个坚强灵秀的女子。“保留心中的火种“,说得太好了。作者: freshland 时间: 2003-9-16 23:46
mlusa,
Yes, you are partly correct. Puccini died before his last opera was finished. But the story was already there, just one other guy(forget his name) finished part of the music of the last act on the base of what Puccini had done. So Liu had no way to be survived. Puccini picked up the melody from Chinese folk song "Jasmin".
I don't know if I could be called an opera fan as my preference mainly focuses on orchestra works such as symphonies and concertos. But I do have some collections on opera. They include Beethoven's "Fidelio", several of Mozart and Weber, some of Verdi, Puccini and Mascagni, and some of Wagner and Richard Straus etc. I rarely buy any CDs in the recent years and, yes, "having no time" is the excuse. I really like to meet some true classical music fans in whatever ways. So you are very welcome to exchange any ideas in this field with me at your convenience.
I appreciate your reply and with the best wishes for your future.
无语, you are absolutely correct !
jadis, are you really a girl ?作者: mlusa 时间: 2003-9-17 14:38
Freshland,
Looks like you have quite a variety of operas, so far I have only listened to Italien ones, as I don't fancy German as a lyric language, but actually Strauss' Die Fledermaus isn't that bad. Don't know about Wagner's operas - any insight on that?
It is said that Puccini used at least eight chinese folk melodies, I could only recognize "Jasmin", - didn't know this melody has been around for so long... I have been listening to classical music (same as you, mostly orchestral works) for a long time, and only started to listen to Opera last year, the very first one was this "Turandot". The opera/classical music season is around the corner, if you intend to go see the performances, please let me know, It would be fun to share the experiences.
Thanks for your wishes and best wishes to you too.作者: freshland 时间: 2003-9-17 22:29
mlusa,
From your posts on other topics I learned that you are a girl, so it's no wonder that you don't like German opera(no offence to you and other females). But it is true that most of female classical music fans only like Italian opera and, regarding to pure music, they only like small piano pieces particularly written by Chopin. Don't be angry. I am not talking about your case . But you should know that most of operas of Mozart are written in Italian, though he is Austrian.
I am so glad that you give me the info on opera/classical music festival and like to share the experiences with me. I take it as a kind of invitation to some live performances(probably I am stupid here). But to prevent from bringing any trouble to you, I'd rather give it up and just stay here to share sth with you if you don't mind, since also from your posts in other place I learned that you are going pretty well with your boyfriend .
Do I look like an idiot ? frown作者: mlusa 时间: 2003-9-18 13:52
Freshland,
Thanks for your reply, which I found rather interesting and amusing. First of all I didn't say that I don't like German operas - I just haven't got around to listen to them yet. Actually I do intend to, as that would be a good pratice for my German. Secondly be careful not to stereotype people - how many female classical music fans do you know?. Thirdly Italien opera, to me, is more of a style, than the nationality of the composer. I do like Mozart's operas too, you can clearly sense those are the works of a genius, but when I am looking for something passionate, I prefer to listen to Verdi and Puccini. Not that Mozart's operas are not passionate, but just not my type of passion.
I actually didn't intend to invite you to the performances, as I already bought this season's opera tickets. But if you also intend to go, it would be fun to chat on the performances that we see - that is what I mean by sharing the experiences. Also if you know of some good performances that's worth attending, please let me know - another example of sharing. And yes I have the sweetest gentlest and most exquisite boyfriend whom I love wholeheartedly. No one compares to him.
As to your last question, the answer is I am not sure as I haven't met you. You probably know the answer better than I do.作者: freshland 时间: 2003-9-18 14:10
god, what a long story ! to save time, let's come to the point directly: so i am an idiot... :cool: :p作者: mlusa 时间: 2003-9-18 14:58
Freshland,
You can be whatever you wish to be. As I said before I don't know whether you are one or not, as I don't know you.作者: freshland 时间: 2003-9-18 15:04
as a matter of fact, even myself never knew i am an idiot before today, now i know it !
it's not "i wish to be", it's that i definitely AM. :rolleyes:作者: mlusa 时间: 2003-9-19 16:40
Freshland,
Whatever. Have a nice weekend.作者: freshland 时间: 2003-9-19 21:32
thanks, mlusa! you too.作者: jjh 时间: 2003-10-21 18:25
你穿着西服与赤裸的女人调情,