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作者: 文星火    时间: 2008-8-14 19:23
标题: 去年13,今年16?
西方媒体普遍怀疑中共体操选手何可欣没有16岁,只有14岁,不符合奥运参赛标准。中共立刻予以否认,那么中共媒体以前是怎么说的呢?大陆记者王小山调查如下:
   
    1、《生活报》2007年11月5日报道:13岁的体操高低杠选手何可欣出色地完成了“李娅空翻”的全套动作,战胜了刚刚获得世锦赛季军的国手杨伊琳。
   
    2、《法制晚报》2008年1月22日报道:记者在平衡木训练场地上看到,13岁的小将何可欣正准备做下一组动作,突然被自己的一阵咳嗽打断……
   
    3、《北京晚报》2007年12月12报道:张佩文口中的“秘密武器”就是最近涌现出的新星何可欣。这名13岁的小将不仅能轻松地完成“李娅空翻”,还在比赛中表现出了与年龄不相符的稳定。
   
    4、搜狐体育 2007年12月1日报道:张佩文口中的秘密武器,原来就是最近涌现出的新星何可欣。这名13岁的小将不仅能轻松地完成“李娅空翻”,还在比赛中表现出了与年龄不相符的稳定。(值得表扬的是,现在该网页已经将“13”改成了“15”,知错就改,善莫大焉。——王小山注)
   
    5、《长江商报》2007年12月1日报道:13岁的体操高低杠选手何可欣相当漂亮地完成“李娅空翻”的全套动作,战胜刚刚获得世锦赛季军的国手杨伊琳。
   
    6、新华社2007年11月3日的一张照片说明部分文字:13岁的武汉选手何可欣在女子高低杠比赛中的对手是国家队的杨伊琳。
   
    7、《人民日报》2007年11月3日报道:13岁的何可欣在女子体操比赛中出色地完成高低杠“李姮空翻”。

(本文只代表作者或者发稿团体的观点、立场
作者: tudouni    时间: 2008-8-14 19:33
真是佩服阁下“无所不知,无所不晓”堪比百晓生!
作者: 文星火    时间: 2008-8-14 19:42
Post by tudouni
真是佩服阁下“无所不知,无所不晓”堪比百晓生!
我无这般神通。是大陆记者王小山的调查。
作者: needlaurel    时间: 2008-8-14 20:45
您真是会挑毛病。

不过耍赖比赛的,中外都有。何必大惊小怪。美国田径运动员不吃药的有几个?!
作者: 2dian    时间: 2008-8-14 23:36
去年13,今年31都行.
作者: Bonn    时间: 2008-8-14 23:53
14!如此天才???!!
作者: cindydd    时间: 2008-8-15 00:02
一定要满16才能参加奥运会吗???? :confused:  :confused:  :confused:
作者: jasonimageca    时间: 2008-8-15 00:09
纪录片筑梦2008透露中国体操女队员年龄(视频/图)
http://news.wenxuecity.com/messages/200808/news-gb2312-677520.html
作者: outspeaker    时间: 2008-8-15 12:39
为了国家利益,什么都可以做假。可怜的只是孩子。
作者: Bonn    时间: 2008-8-15 13:43
google缓存,牛!

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作者: needlaurel    时间: 2008-8-15 14:26
建议你快点去国际奥委会报告。我相信他们会给你发一枚金牌的。

Post by Bonn
google缓存,牛!

作者: Bonn    时间: 2008-8-15 14:30
Post by needlaurel
建议你快点去国际奥委会报告。我相信他们会给你发一枚金牌的。


澄清事实而已,看把您激动的。

年龄小就当主力不正说明实力强么?
作者: w_w    时间: 2008-8-15 14:53
有本事别在这叫  
拿着你们的证据向你的美国主子汇报去吧
要是能帮你们的主子拿回这枚金牌  
说不准还能被赏几根骨头
比在这瞎叫唤强多了
    
作者: Bonn    时间: 2008-8-15 15:35
Post by w_w
有本事别在这叫  
拿着你们的证据向你的美国主子汇报去吧
要是能帮你们的主子拿回这枚金牌  
说不准还能被赏几根骨头
比在这瞎叫唤强多了
    

底裤掉了扯上就是,何必就歇斯底里。金牌就算都拿了你也不会分半个足球,何苦这么投入呢?:cool:
作者: lunarose    时间: 2008-8-15 15:55
Post by Bonn
底裤掉了扯上就是,何必就歇斯底里。金牌就算都拿了你也不会分半个足球,何苦这么投入呢?:cool:

你不是为了你主子都真空上阵了嘛

低头看看你哪来的底裤
作者: w_w    时间: 2008-8-15 16:15
Post by Bonn
底裤掉了扯上就是,何必就歇斯底里。金牌就算都拿了你也不会分半个足球,何苦这么投入呢?:cool:


这么快就   跳出来一只

原来你是实用主义
怪不得不去你主子那报料
知道报了也不会给你半根骨头
可是在这乱叫也不是回事啊

:rolleyes:  :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:
作者: w_w    时间: 2008-8-15 16:16
Post by lunarose
你不是为了你主子都真空上阵了嘛

低头看看你哪来的底裤



      
作者: 经纬度    时间: 2008-8-15 16:18
标题: unbelievable
--from yahoo.com


The Olympics’ age-old problem

By Dan Wetzel, Yahoo! Sports Aug 14, 8:51 pm EDT Bottom of Form







BEIJINGFor a long time, elements of the Chinese government itself thought women’s gymnast He Kexin was born Jan. 1, 1994, which would make her 14 and too young to compete in these Summer Olympics.

Whether it was repeated mentions in the government-controlled media – including a new one uncovered Friday by the Associated Press – or on official gymnastic meet registration forms and websites, He was “this little girl” and a “new star.”

As recently as December 2007, in provincial gymnastics meets and news reports that covered it, she was a 13-year-old prodigy, too young for the 16-year-old Olympic age limit for gymnastics.

Then, suddenly, she wasn’t.

Earlier this year China produced her passport that claimed she was born Jan. 1, 1992, making her old enough to perform a brilliant uneven bar routine and push China to the women’s all around gold medal.

The Chinese either got it wrong in 2007 or wrong in 2008. Considering 2000 Chinese bronze medalist Yang Yun later admitted on state television she was 14 that year, the reported ages of He Kexin and at least two of her teammates have aroused suspicion in nearly everyone except the powers that be – the International Gymnastics Federation (FIG) and the International Olympic Committee (IOC).

Both organizations accepted the new passport as fact, certified He and tried to cover their collective ears at all the complaints. Wednesday, the IOC even slipped a gold medal around He Kexin’s neck.

If the IOC had a modicum of decency and courage (don’t count on it), it would open an immediate investigation into whether it might take that medal right back.

If not for the of-age gymnasts who lost to the Chinese, then for He and her diminutive teammates, who – if they actually are old enough – don’t deserve suspicion tainting their accomplishment.

While the IOC undoubtedly is petrified of humiliating the host country in such a scandal, doing nothing merely humiliates the IOC and continues the belief that the organization is about money, not fair play.

For its part, the Chinese gymnastics delegation told the AP that the mistake was made by the media and provincial officials, not on the passport. Everything is on the up and up.

“It’s definitely a mistake,” Zhang Hongliang told the AP. “Never has any media outlet called me to check the athletes’ ages.

“We already explained this very clearly,” Zhang said. “There’s no need to discuss this thing again.”

Oh, but there is. The age of the Chinese gymnasts has overwhelmed the women’s gymnastics competition.

It’s not just the wild and often ill-timed accusations by USA Gymnastics team coordinator Marta Karoyli and her husband Bela Karoyli, who dubbed the Chinese “half people.”

It’s the snickers from disbelieving fans around the world who can’t come to grips with girls who look so young actually being 16.

The entire competition has lost credibility. Outside of China the focus has been on the birth dates, not the brilliance of the Chinese athletes.

The IOC and FIG can’t continue to bury their heads and hope it will blow away.

“The FIG has received confirmation from the International Olympic Committee that all passports are valid for all gymnasts competing in the Beijing Olympic Games,” FIG said in a statement.

“Stringent control measures are taken at the time of athlete accreditation for all official FIG competitions. Further, all athlete ages for the Beijing Olympic Games are consistent with the FIG records for all past FIG competitions.”

In an effort to protect the health of athletes whose bones and muscles have not fully formed, FIG years ago instituted the 16-year-old age minimum. To compete in these Games, a gymnast had to be born in 1992 or earlier.

A younger and presumably smaller gymnast would have an advantage in some disciplines due to their nimble nature. Nadia Comaneci scored seven perfect-10s in the 1976 Games when she was just 14.

Perhaps it’s believable that one person’s age could be so terribly confused. However, He is just one of the gymnasts with suspicious confusion.

The birth date of Yang Yilin was listed on official national registration lists posted by the General Administration of Sport of China website from 2004-2006 as a too-young Aug. 26, 1993, according to the AP.

On her passport her birth date is Aug. 26, 1992.

Jiang Yuyuan’s birthday was Oct. 1, 1993 as recently as a registration list for a 2007 competition. According to her passport she was born Nov. 1, 1991.

All three of those gymnasts produced high-scoring performances on the uneven bars that gave China a lead it would not relinquish in the women’s team all around. It was one reason Marta Karoyli stomped around mocking the Chinese to her American gymnasts, calling them “little babies” and later claiming one still had “baby teeth.”

Karoyli’s suspicions were never wrong, just the style, means and timing in which she and her husband expressed them. The fact that her team’s performance was not strong and she expanded the conspiracies to include Olympic officials who were supposedly distracting her gymnasts didn’t help (that accusation was refuted by USA Gymnastics itself).

No matter the strength of the allegations, the moments after the competition was not the time for Karoyli to throw a hissy-fit unbecoming of a team coordinator.

Gymnastics deserve better from everyone. This cloud of controversy isn’t fair to the Chinese, the Americans or anyone else, and it shouldn’t be played out in media quotes and old websites.

A real investigation with real explanations is long overdue. It’s time for the IOC to do more than count the money here.


作者: Bonn    时间: 2008-8-15 16:35
我玩体育那会儿都是把年龄改小了好拿青少比赛高名次,改小2、3岁都不稀奇,这次居然反其道而行之,中国的确进步了。

其实奥委会这条规定不合理,参赛者都遵循统一规则,人家虽幼小也能搞定,怎么就不能代表国家参赛?中国应该奋起argue,而不是羞羞答答的给人拔掉谎言的底裤。

作者: Bonn    时间: 2008-8-15 16:36
Post by w_w
这么快就   跳出来一只

原来你是实用主义
怪不得不去你主子那报料
知道报了也不会给你半根骨头
可是在这乱叫也不是回事啊

:rolleyes:  :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:

梁不举的衣柜不小,不留神又翻出了一件马甲,可惜还是没有底裤。
作者: needlaurel    时间: 2008-8-15 17:24
强烈要求bonn向国际奥委会举报造假,并带上证据。国际奥委会不给你个金牌,我呼吁大家给他定做一个。


同意的举手!!!
作者: Bonn    时间: 2008-8-15 17:33
Post by needlaurel
强烈要求bonn向国际奥委会举报造假,并带上证据。国际奥委会不给你个金牌,我呼吁大家给他定做一个。


同意的举手!!!

革命的无赖主义,不新鲜了。:cool:
作者: 文星火    时间: 2008-8-15 21:17
刘晓庆坚持说,她能演好从14到74的慈禧,哪个YTD的还敢再怀疑!
作者: needlaurel    时间: 2008-8-15 21:34
哥们,别跟我过不去阿。我没说同意造假这种做法。我招谁惹谁了?!动不动就骂人?你有本事告状去。我们等你好消息。没本事就该干啥干啥。骂人算不上好汉!!


Post by Bonn
革命的无赖主义,不新鲜了。:cool:

作者: 文星火    时间: 2008-8-15 21:42
对!说事儿,不骂人。
作者: w_w    时间: 2008-8-15 21:42
Post by Bonn
梁不举的衣柜不小,不留神又翻出了一件马甲,可惜还是没有底裤。


Y的又在YY了      
作者: W2S    时间: 2008-8-15 21:57
如果我没有记错, 2005年才开规定16岁. 所以用2000年的标准来辩论2008的标准.............
Post by 经纬度


The Chinese either got it wrong in 2007 or wrong in 2008. Considering 2000 Chinese bronze medalist Yang Yun later admitted on state television she was 14 that year, the reported ages of He Kexin and at least two of her teammates have aroused suspicion in nearly everyone except the powers that be – the International Gymnastics Federation (FIG) and the International Olympic Committee (IOC).







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