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作者: qian22    时间: 2009-3-12 18:41
标题: 请教小孩回国3个月要不要通知政府部门, 还有没有这3个月的牛奶金拿?谢谢!
请教小孩回国3个月要不要通知政府部门, 还有没有这3个月的牛奶金拿?谢谢!
作者: 2dian    时间: 2009-3-12 19:54
你不通知,可能还有....
作者: bellefille    时间: 2009-3-12 20:08
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作者: nware    时间: 2009-3-12 20:48
如果监护人在这3个月里和孩子在一起,甚至更长的时间不在加拿大,根本不需要通知谁,下面是领取牛奶金的条件

To get the CCTB, all the following conditions must be met.
  

作者: lkp    时间: 2009-3-13 00:56
如果半年以上孩子和监护人不在加拿大,例如长期在中国住,孩子可以领牛奶金吗?配偶是加拿大公民,have residential ties. :confused:



Post by nware;2178434
如果监护人在这3个月里和孩子在一起,甚至更长的时间不在加拿大,根本不需要通知谁,下面是领取牛奶金的条件

To get the CCTB, all the following conditions must be met.
  


作者: nware    时间: 2009-3-13 10:25
Residential Ties In Canada

  ¶ 4. The most important factor to be considered in determining whether or not an individual leaving Canada remains resident in Canada for tax purposes is whether or not the individual maintains residential ties with Canada while he or she is abroad. While the residence status of an individual can only be determined on a case by case basis after taking into consideration all of the relevant facts, generally, unless an individual severs all significant residential ties with Canada upon leaving Canada, the individual will continue to be a factual resident of Canada and subject to Canadian tax on his or her worldwide income.
  ¶ 5. The residential ties of an individual that will almost always be significant residential ties for the purpose of determining residence status are the individual's
   (a) dwelling place (or places),
  (b) spouse or common-law partner, and
  (c) dependants.

  ¶ 6. Where an individual who leaves Canada keeps a dwelling place in Canada (whether owned or leased), available for his or her occupation, that dwelling place will be considered to be a significant residential tie with Canada during the individual's stay abroad. However, if an individual leases a dwelling place located in Canada to a third party on arm's length terms and conditions, the CCRA will take into account all of the circumstances of the situation (including the relationship between the individual and the third party, the real estate market at the time of the individual's departure from Canada, and the purpose of the stay abroad), and may not consider the dwelling place to be a significant residential tie with Canada except when taken together with other residential ties (see ¶ 17 for an example of this situation and see ¶ 9 for a discussion of the significance of secondary residential ties).
  ¶ 7. If an individual who is married or cohabiting with a common-law partner leaves Canada, but his or her spouse or common-law partner remains in Canada, then that spouse or common-law partner will usually be a significant residential tie with Canada during the individual's absence from Canada. Similarly, if an individual with dependants leaves Canada, but his or her dependants remain behind, then those dependants will usually be considered to be a significant residential tie with Canada while the individual is abroad. Where an individual was living separate and apart from his or her spouse or common-law partner prior to leaving Canada, by reason of a breakdown of their marriage or common-law partnership, that spouse or common-law partner will not be considered to be a significant tie with Canada.
  ¶ 8. Generally, secondary residential ties must be looked at collectively in order to evaluate the significance of any one such tie, therefore, it would be unusual for a single secondary residential tie with Canada to be sufficient in and by itself to lead to a determination that an individual is factually resident in Canada while abroad. Secondary residential ties that will be taken into account in determining the residence status of an individual while outside Canada are
   (a) personal property in Canada (such as furniture, clothing, automobiles and recreational vehicles),
  (b) social ties with Canada (such as memberships in Canadian recreational and religious organizations),
  (c) economic ties with Canada (such as employment with a Canadian employer and active involvement in a Canadian business, and Canadian bank accounts, retirement savings plans, credit cards, and securities accounts),
  (d) landed immigrant status or appropriate work permits in Canada,
  (e) hospitalization and medical insurance coverage from a province or territory of Canada,
  (f) a driver's license from a province or territory of Canada,
  (g) a vehicle registered in a province or territory of Canada,
  (h) a seasonal dwelling place in Canada or a leased dwelling place referred to in ¶ 6,
  (i) a Canadian passport, and
  (j) memberships in Canadian unions or professional organizations.

  ¶ 9. Other residential ties that the Courts have considered in determining the residence status of an individual while outside Canada, and which may be taken into account by the CCRA, include the retention of a Canadian mailing address, post office box, or safety deposit box, personal stationery (including business cards) showing a Canadian address, telephone listings in Canada, and local (Canadian) newspaper and magazine subscriptions. These residential ties are generally of limited importance except when taken together with other residential ties, or with other factors such as those described in ¶ 10.
作者: 51741    时间: 2009-3-14 07:31
Post by qian22;2178307
请教小孩回国3个月要不要通知政府部门, 还有没有这3个月的牛奶金拿?谢谢!

回国才3个月?

用不着通知政府,就当孩子是出国度假了,牛奶金照领不误。
作者: 51741    时间: 2009-3-14 07:37
Post by lkp;2178611
如果半年以上孩子和监护人不在加拿大,例如长期在中国住,孩子可以领牛奶金吗?配偶是加拿大公民,have residential ties. :confused:

孩子与其中一位家长长期在中国住,牛奶金照样可以领。

关键是:住在中国一方的家长必须是加国的税务居民,而且须年年申报在中国境内的收入。
作者: lkp    时间: 2009-3-14 22:55
谢谢你的回答, 问题是, 孩子和两位家长都长期住在中国(也许不回加拿大了), 而他们也没有给加拿大政府交税(有报税),但其中一位家长是加拿大的公民, 这种情况可以拿牛奶金吗?   我周围的朋友真的有这种情况。。。。




Post by 51741;2179570
孩子与其中一位家长长期在中国住,牛奶金照样可以领。

关键是:住在中国一方的家长必须是加国的税务居民,而且须年年申报在中国境内的收入。

作者: 51741    时间: 2009-3-15 08:18
Post by lkp;2180343
谢谢你的回答, 问题是, 孩子和两位家长都长期住在中国(也许不回加拿大了), 而他们也没有给加拿大政府交税(有报税),但其中一位家长是加拿大的公民, 这种情况可以拿牛奶金吗? 我周围的朋友真的有这种情况。。。。

当然可以。

牛奶金是加国政府给加国低收入的税务居民要抚养孩子的津贴。

孩子和家长都在中国,只要他们有一方是加国公民,还有加国的银行户口,就说明他们仍然是税务居民;他们有报税,就说明他们有履行税务居民的义务。

他们没有给加拿大政府的交税,只能说明他们的收入低,还不到该交税的线,他们还是有领取牛奶金的权利。

权利和义务是对等的。
作者: 2dian    时间: 2009-3-15 08:23
父母在加拿大打现金工,孩子寄养在中国(长期),有牛奶金吗?
作者: 51741    时间: 2009-3-15 08:37
Post by 2dian;2180473
父母在加拿大打现金工,孩子寄养在中国(长期),有牛奶金吗?

当然不行!

因为有资格领牛奶金的条件之第一条就是:

1. You must live with the child, and the child must be under 18 years of age.
作者: lkp    时间: 2009-3-15 09:03
谢谢你的回答!  这些牛奶金对回国发展的低收入家庭有一定的帮助。 我有朋友的家庭真真实实是这种情况。 不过, 我希望他们将来发达了,能真实的向加拿大政府报税。 不能只拿别人的,而不贡献啊!



Post by 51741;2180469
当然可以。

牛奶金是加国政府给加国低收入的税务居民要抚养孩子的津贴。

孩子和家长都在中国,只要他们有一方是加国公民,还有加国的银行户口,就说明他们仍然是税务居民;他们有报税,就说明他们有履行税务居民的义务。

他们没有给加拿大政府的交税,只能说明他们的收入低,还不到该交税的线,所以他们就有领取牛奶金的权利。

权利和义务是对等的。

作者: canaintex    时间: 2009-3-15 21:04
我曾就这个问题专门咨询过蒙城服务中心的工作人员,他们给我的回答是:只要小孩一年内离开加拿大的总时间超过183天,那么至少这六个月的牛奶金是没资格领取的
(小孩肯定是和其中一方家长住在一起的,这是肯定的),即使你当时不向政府申报小孩不在加,只要最后政府查出来了(你出入境政府要查肯定是可以查出来的),就会连本带利的向你讨回来,而且会在信用上打入黑名单。他们当时还向我强调,也有一部份人为了贪图那些牛奶金,确实是有不在加而且不向政府申报的,也可能确实有些人可能小孩几年时间都是寄养在中国还在领牛奶金的,但也是政府一时没查得你而已,查到了一样是非法的!!!他们当时绝对不是象你说的那样:只要大人和小孩是在一起的,即使长期居住在中国也可以一直领牛奶金到小孩18岁????


--------------难道他们这种专业人士对这个问题的理解情度是错的?????

还有楼主说的你有朋友确实是有这种情况的,那你有问清楚他们有向政府报备说小孩是长期寄养在中国的吗?其实如果要知道是不是合法的很简单:如果那位长期和小孩在中国的人是有向金政府报备了小孩是长期寄养在中国,但他还是正常的每月或每个季度能领到牛奶 金在一年以上(如果很短的时间也是是政府部门工作效率的问题,不一定是真的能合法领到相应 的牛奶 金的),就是说是合法的啦。



Post by 51741;2180469
当然可以。

牛奶金是加国政府给加国低收入的税务居民要抚养孩子的津贴。

孩子和家长都在中国,只要他们有一方是加国公民,还有加国的银行户口,就说明他们仍然是税务居民;他们有报税,就说明他们有履行税务居民的义务。

他们没有给加拿大政府的交税,只能说明他们的收入低,还不到该交税的线,他们还是有领取牛奶金的权利。

权利和义务是对等的。

作者: 51741    时间: 2009-3-16 09:07
Post by canaintex;2181127
  

--------------难道他们这种专业人士对这个问题的理解情度是错的?????


我不想评论别人的理解是否有错,我只是按照政府在其网页上的刊登的条文来理解。

CCTB: Application and Eligibility :
1. You must live with the child, and the child must be under 18 years of age.
只是说:你必须是和孩子住在一起,并没有说要住在加拿大。

2. You must be the person primarily responsible for the care and upbringing of the child. We define primarily responsible on the previous page.
Note
If a child does not reside with you all the time, see "Shared eligibility".

不论是父亲还是母亲和孩子住在一起,都有资格领牛奶金。

3. You must be a resident of Canada for tax purposes.
We consider you to be a resident of Canada when you establish sufficient residential ties in Canada. For more information, see Interpretation Bulletin IT-221, Determination of an Individual's Residence Status.
只要有一方还在加拿大,只要还有银行户口在加拿大,那你就是税务居民。


4. You or your spouse or common-law partner must be:
只要有一方是公民或是永久居民就够格了。

When should you contact the CRA about your CCTB ?
1. You have changed your address
If you move, be sure to let us know. Otherwise, your payments may stop, even if you use direct deposit and your bank account doesn't change. See How to change your address.
只要有一方还在加拿大的原址居住,就不用报告。

2. b) A child for whom you are receiving the benefit is no longer in your care
If a child for whom you are receiving the CCTB is no longer in your care, stops living with you, or dies, call 1-800-387-1193. Let us know as soon as possible, in order to avoid getting overpaid and receiving a request to pay some of your benefits back.
如果两口子都在加,只是把还在送回国,要报告。

6. You or your spouse or common-law partner's immigration or residency status has changed
If this is the case, please call 1-800-387-1193.

当其中一方不再是移民,不再是税务居民,你就应该报告。

不过能有牛奶金,不等于医疗保险也有。
作者: nanu    时间: 2009-3-17 20:21
标题: 牛奶金
小孩随父母中的一方回国居住联邦的牛奶金可以拿,超过180天,魁省的就拿不了。
作者: nware    时间: 2009-3-18 08:35
标题: 又在误导
Eligibility for child assistance payments

To be eligible for child assistance payments, a person must meet the following conditions:



To receive child assistance payments, both spouses must have filed a Québec tax return even if one or both of them had no income to report.
作者: 51741    时间: 2009-3-18 12:30
离开魁省多久就不能领魁省的牛奶金,我还没有找到实据。

魁省与联邦不同的是:
You must inform the Régie rapidly if your situation changes. This information is important because it allows us to calculate the amounts to which you are entitled.


不论小孩是离开魁省,还是不再与家长住在一起,都须立即通知政府。


参看链接:http://www.rrq.gouv.qc.ca/en/enf ... ituation_change.htm
作者: cn2004    时间: 2010-12-25 21:20
那些驻外的如外交人员的小孩跟父母就没有Q省的牛奶金拿了?
作者: 芭蕉叶    时间: 2011-1-3 10:49
只有一个银行帐户不能算作sufficient tie, 不能算作税务居民,也不用报税。当然也不能成为领取牛奶金的理由。

在境外超过183天,需要有sufficient tie作为税务居民,比如房产,或多个资金往来帐户。


Post by 51741;2181362
我不想评论别人的理解是否有错,我只是按照政府在其网页上的刊登的条文来理解。

CCTB: Application and Eligibility :
1. You must live with the child, and the child must be under 18 years of age.
只是说:你必须是和孩子住在一起,并没有说要住在加拿大。

2. You must be the person primarily responsible for the care and upbringing of the child. We define primarily responsible on the previous page.
Note
If a child does not reside with you all the time, see "Shared eligibility".

不论是父亲还是母亲和孩子住在一起,都有资格领牛奶金。

3. You must be a resident of Canada for tax purposes.
We consider you to be a resident of Canada when you establish sufficient residential ties in Canada. For more information, see Interpretation Bulletin IT-221, Determination of an Individual's Residence Status.
只要有一方还在加拿大,只要还有银行户口在加拿大,那你就是税务居民。


4. You or your spouse or common-law partner must be:

只要有一方是公民或是永久居民就够格了。

When should you contact the CRA about your CCTB ?
1. You have changed your address
If you move, be sure to let us know. Otherwise, your payments may stop, even if you use direct deposit and your bank account doesn't change. See How to change your address.
只要有一方还在加拿大的原址居住,就不用报告。

2. b) A child for whom you are receiving the benefit is no longer in your care
If a child for whom you are receiving the CCTB is no longer in your care, stops living with you, or dies, call 1-800-387-1193. Let us know as soon as possible, in order to avoid getting overpaid and receiving a request to pay some of your benefits back.
如果两口子都在加,只是把还在送回国,要报告。

6. You or your spouse or common-law partner's immigration or residency status has changed
If this is the case, please call 1-800-387-1193.

当其中一方不再是移民,不再是税务居民,你就应该报告。

不过能有牛奶金,不等于医疗保险也有。

作者: 马虎妞    时间: 2011-1-4 12:15
标题: 当然没有
Post by cn2004;2764131
那些驻外的如外交人员的小孩跟父母就没有Q省的牛奶金拿了?

这些人员不属于低收入家庭
作者: sonia    时间: 2011-1-15 17:09
Post by nanu;2183005
小孩随父母中的一方回国居住联邦的牛奶金可以拿,超过180天,魁省的就拿不了。

貌似联邦和魁省的规定不一样,联邦只要孩子和父母住一起不论加国还是中国都可以,魁省只要离开魁省6个月就不可以拿,是这样么?
作者: linda_2008    时间: 2011-3-3 00:27
Post by cn2004;2764131
那些驻外的如外交人员的小孩跟父母就没有Q省的牛奶金拿了?
外交人员和驻海外的士兵,应该有特殊规定.




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