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作者: topjoy 时间: 2004-5-29 19:34
标题: 我该退吗?Canon PowerShot S500
我一冲动，就买了Canon PowerShot S500数码照相机(5mega,35-108mm)外加256MB的Memory,840刀。（和我去年在BoxingDay买的Sony DCR TRV19的数码摄象机的开销相差无几）。
问题：对我这样的菜鸟，是不是有点不明智，没有必要?我有点想退了，换个低档一点的，但这么漂亮的东东的确有点不忍它离我而去。想听听大家的意见。
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0001G6U5W/103-3142749-0407042?v=glance

作者: kocovic 时间: 2004-5-30 15:36

Post by topjoy
我一冲动，就买了Canon PowerShot S500数码照相机(5mega,35-108mm)外加256MB的Memory,840刀。（和我去年在BoxingDay买的Sony DCR TRV19的数码摄象机的开销相差无几）。
问题：对我这样的菜鸟，是不是有点不明智，没有必要?我有点想退了，换个低档一点的，但这么漂亮的东东的确有点不忍它离我而去。想听听大家的意见。
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0001G6U5W/103-3142749-0407042?v=glance

就这台你还嫌太高档了阿，那真是没话说了，
这种傻瓜相机真的没甚么用的，要换也得换个更好点的么

作者: western 时间: 2004-5-30 17:18
这相机其实很不错，留着8
东东一流，适合新手

作者: topjoy 时间: 2004-5-30 20:39
谢谢诸位,我想换个sony 3.2 Mega 的, 现在的价格是300$, 不知主意如何? 还望诸位指点指点,这个钱值得省吗?

作者: trueprice 时间: 2004-5-30 20:46
作为傻瓜机，它是不错的相机。

但若你想学摄影，还是换吧。

作者: laohu852 时间: 2004-5-30 21:17
看得出你不是摄影发烧友，还是换成便宜的吧。3M的足够家用了。
你的情况十分类似于我当初装机时配显卡，高配置但不实用，很快就贬值了。
所以想想你干什么用的，还有钱包鼓不鼓，不过提出这个问题估计不会太鼓。
一定要退，另外我用的柯达5M的挺好，350刀，可以考虑。

作者: cigarette 时间: 2004-5-30 21:21
好东西, 别换!!

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作者: western 时间: 2004-5-31 12:12
作为‘傻瓜’机型，绝对比sony的p系列强

作者: topjoy 时间: 2004-5-31 16:36
我不是摄影发烧友,钱包不鼓，为了家庭外出旅游留个影，把照片发给国内的亲友，或刻成光盘保存，比普通相机省冲洗费。摄象机拍的photo分辨率太低了，
Kodak的质量如何？Powershot S500 和IXU S500外观完全一样，就是型号不同，是一样的吗？

作者: topjoy 时间: 2004-5-31 17:30
我换了一个Canon Powershot S1 IS，有10 倍光学变焦,带image stabilizer，3.2 Mega。用用试试，价格与5 Mega的几乎一样。

作者: topjoy 时间: 2004-5-31 17:37
C:b.jpgCanon PowerShot S1 IS 3.2 MP Digital Camera with 10x Image Stabilized Optical Zoom

CAD$ 629.96 (Tax exclude)

作者: trueprice 时间: 2004-5-31 17:38
<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=2 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=tdlabelproduct>Canon PowerShot S500</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Image </TD><TD class=tdlabelproduct>

</TD></TR><TR height=48><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> More information</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=center align=middle><TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=0 width=180 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=small11>

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[/url] Max resolution </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>2592 x 1944</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('resolution')]

[/url] Low resolution </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>2048 x 1536, 1600 x 1200, 1240 x 768, 640 x 480</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Image ratio w:h </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>4:3</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('effective pixels')]

[/url] Effective pixels </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>5.0 million</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('sensor')]

[/url] Sensor photo detectors </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>5.24 million</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('sensor')]

[/url] Sensor size </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>1/1.8 " (7.18 x 5.32 mm)</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('sensor')]

[/url] Sensor type </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>CCD</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('colour filter array')]

[/url] Colour filter array </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>RGB</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Sensor manufacturer </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Unknown</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('sensitivity')]

[/url] ISO rating </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Auto, 50, 100, 200, 400</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('focal length')]

[/url] Zoom wide (W) </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>36 mm</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('focal length')]

[/url] Zoom tele (T) </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>108 mm (3 x)</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('digital zoom')]

[/url] Digital zoom </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Yes, 4.1 x</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Auto Focus </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Yes</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('manual focus')]

[/url] Manual Focus </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>No</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Auto focus type </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Ai AF TTL 9-point</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('subject distance')]

[/url] Normal focus range </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Unknown</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('macro')]

[/url] Macro focus range </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>5 cm</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('white balance')]

[/url] White balance override </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Yes -5 positions plus manual</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('aperture')]

[/url] Aperture range </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>F2.8 - F4.9</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('shutter speed')]

[/url] Min shutter </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>15 sec</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('shutter speed')]

[/url] Max shutter </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>1/2000 sec</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Built-in Flash </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Yes</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Flash guide no. </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>3.5 m (11.4 ft) 5 m</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> External flash </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>No</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Flash modes </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Auto, On, Off, Manual (Red Eye On/Off)</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('focal length multiplier')]

[/url] Focal length multiplier </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm> </TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('exposure compensation')]

[/url] Exposure compensation </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>-2EV to +2EV in 1/3EV steps</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Metering </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Evaluative, Center Weighted, Spot</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('aperture priority')]

[/url] Aperture priority </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>No</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('shutter priority')]

[/url] Shutter priority </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>No</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Lens thread </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>None</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Continuous Drive </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Yes, 1.5 fps, 2.2 fps, max 14 images</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Movie Clips </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Yes, 640 x 480, 30 sec, 320 x 240, max 3 mins with audio</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Remote control </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>No</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Tripod mount </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Yes</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Self-timer </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>2 or 10 sec</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('time lapse')]

[/url] Time-lapse recording </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>No</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('storage card')]

[/url] Storage types </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Compact Flash (Type I)</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Microdrive compatible </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>No</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Storage included </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>32 MB CompactFlash</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('tiff')]

[/url] Uncompressed format </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>No</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('jpeg')]

[/url] Compressed format </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>JPEG (EXIF 2.2)</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Quality Levels </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Super-Fine, Fine, Normal</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('viewfinder')]

[/url] Viewfinder </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Optical</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('lcd')]

[/url] LCD </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>1.5 "</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> LCD Pixels </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>118,000</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Playback zoom </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Yes</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Video out </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Yes</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('connectivity')]

[/url] USB </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Yes</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Firewire (IEEE 1394) </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>No</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('connectivity')]

[/url] Serial </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>No</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('batteries')]

[/url] Battery / Charger </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Yes</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('batteries')]

[/url] Battery </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Lithium-Ion NB-1LH Battery & charger</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Weight (inc. batteries) </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>215 g (7.6 oz)</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Dimensions </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>87 x 57 x 28 mm (3.4 x 2.2 x 1.1 in)</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Notes </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Orientation sensor</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Resolution Chart</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm align=middle> </TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Colour Patches</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

作者: trueprice 时间: 2004-5-31 17:40
<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=2 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=tdlabelproduct>Canon PowerShot S1 IS</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Image </TD><TD class=tdlabelproduct>

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Find related discussion</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR height=48><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Owners opinions</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm align=middle><TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=0 width=180 border=0><TBODY></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Support this site by
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$406.00 at Beach Camera
$411.00 at Willoughbys Est.1898
Click here for more...</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Format </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>SLR-like</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Price (street) </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>US$456</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Also known as </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm> </TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Camera body </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm> </TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Release Status </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>New@PMA</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('resolution')]

[/url] Max resolution </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>2048 x 1536</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('resolution')]

[/url] Low resolution </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>1600 x 1200, 1024 x 768, 640 x 480</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Image ratio w:h </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>4:3</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('effective pixels')]

[/url] Effective pixels </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>3.2 million</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('sensor')]

[/url] Sensor photo detectors </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>3.34 million</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('sensor')]

[/url] Sensor size </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>1/2.7" (5.27 x 3.96 mm)</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('sensor')]

[/url] Sensor type </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>CCD</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('colour filter array')]

[/url] ISO rating </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Auto, 50, 100, 200, 400</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('focal length')]

[/url] Zoom wide (W) </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>38 mm</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('focal length')]

[/url] Zoom tele (T) </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>380 mm (10 x)</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('digital zoom')]

[/url] Digital zoom </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Yes up to 3.2x</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Auto Focus </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Yes</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('manual focus')]

[/url] Manual Focus </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Yes</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Auto focus type </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>TTL, FlexiZone</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('subject distance')]

[/url] Normal focus range </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>10 cm</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('macro')]

[/url] Macro focus range </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>10 cm</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('white balance')]

[/url] White balance override </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Yes - 6 positions & manual preset</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('aperture')]

[/url] Aperture range </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>F2.8 - F3.1 / F8 </TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('shutter speed')]

[/url] Min shutter </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>15 sec</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('shutter speed')]

[/url] Max shutter </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>1/2000 sec</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Built-in Flash </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Yes, pop-up</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Flash guide no. </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>4.2 m (13.7 ft) </TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> External flash </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>No</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Flash modes </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Auto, Fill-in, Anti-red-eye, Slow Sync, Off</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('focal length multiplier')]

[/url] Focal length multiplier </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm> </TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('exposure compensation')]

[/url] Aperture priority </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Yes</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('shutter priority')]

[/url] Shutter priority </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Yes</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Lens thread </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Yes, optional Bayonet</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Continuous Drive </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Yes 1.7 fps up to 24 frames</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Movie Clips </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Yes, 640 x 480, 15/30 fps with audio, unlimited</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Remote control </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Yes, optional wireless</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Tripod mount </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Yes</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Self-timer </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>2 or 10 sec</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('time lapse')]

[/url] Time-lapse recording </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Yes</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('storage card')]

[/url] Storage types </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Compact Flash (Type I or II)</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Microdrive compatible </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Yes</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Storage included </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>32 MB CompactFlash</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('tiff')]

[/url] Uncompressed format </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>No</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('jpeg')]

[/url] Viewfinder </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>EVF</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('lcd')]

[/url] LCD </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>1.5"</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> LCD Pixels </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>114,000</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Playback zoom </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Yes 2x, 10x</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Video out </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Yes</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('connectivity')]

[/url] Serial </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>No</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('batteries')]

[/url] Battery / Charger </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>No</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('batteries')]

[/url] Battery </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>AA (4) batteries (NiMH recommended)</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Weight (inc. batteries) </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>469 g (16.5 oz)</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Dimensions </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>111 x 78 x 66 mm (4.4 x 3.1 x 2.6 in)</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Notes </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Orientation sensor</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

作者: trueprice 时间: 2004-5-31 17:44
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rice</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm width=384>US: $499
EU: ?99</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top noWrap width=99>Body Material</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm width=384>

lastic</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm width=99>Sensor</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm width=384>• 3.34 megapixel (total) CCD
• 3.2 million effective pixels
• 1/2.7" Type (click here)
• RGB Color Filter Array</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm width=99>Image processor</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm width=384>DIGIC with iSAPS</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm width=99>Image sizes</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm width=384>• 2048 x 1536
• 1600 x 1200
• 1024 x 768
• 640 x 480</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm width=99>Movie clips</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm width=384>• 640 x 480, Fine, 30 fps
• 640 x 480, 15 fps
• 320 x 240, 15 fps
• Length limited only by storage (streaming)
• With audio</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top noWrap width=99>Image formats</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm width=384>• JPEG (EXIF 2.2) - Super Fine, Fine, Normal</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm width=99>Lens</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm width=384>• 10x optical zoom, Image Stabilized
• 38 - 380 mm equiv.
• F2.8 - F3.1
• 11 elements in 9 groups, 1 aspherical element
• USM (ultrasonic motor) zoom, multi-speed
• Bayonet fitting for optional add-on lenses / hood</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top noWrap width=99>Digital zoom</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm width=384>Yes, smooth up to 3.2x</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm width=99>Focusing</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm width=384>• TTL
• Center Area AF
• FlexiZone AF/AE area selection
• Single / Continuous AF
• Manual focus
• Focus bracketing
• 10 cm minimum focus range (macro)</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm width=99>AF Assist lamp</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm width=384>No</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm width=99>Shooting mode</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm width=384>• Auto
• Program AE
• Shutter priority AE
• Aperture priority AE
• Manual
• Custom
• Portrait
• Landscape
• Night Scene
• Fast Shutter
• Slow Shutter
• Stitch Assist
• Movie</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm width=99>Metering</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm width=384>• Evaluative
• Center-weighted average
• Spot</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm width=99>Sensitivity</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm width=384>• Auto
• ISO 50
• ISO 100
• ISO 200
• ISO 400</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm width=99>Shutter speed</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm width=384>• Program AE/Aperture Priority: 1.3 - 1/2000 sec
• Shutter priority/Manual: 15 - 1/2000 sec
• Automatic noise reduction for exposures of 1.3 sec or slower</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm width=99>Shutter priority</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm width=384>15, 13, 10, 8, 6, 5, 4, 3.2, 2.5, 2, 1.6, 1.3, 1, 0.8, 0.6, 0.5, 0.4, 0.3, 1/4, 1/5, 1/6, 1/8, 1/10, 1/13, 1/15, 1/20, 1/25, 1/30, 1/40, 1/50, 1/60, 1/80, 1/100, 1/125, 1/160, 1/200, 1/250, 1/320, 1/400, 1/500, 1/640, 1/800, 1/1000, 1/1250, 1/1600, 1/2000
* See limitations below</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm width=99>Shutter speed max limitations</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm width=384>• Wide, F2.8 - F5.0: 1/1250 s, F5.6 - F8.0: 1/2000 s
• Tele, F3.1 - F5.6: 1/1250 s, F6.3 - F8.0: 1/2000 s </TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm width=99>Aperture priority</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm width=384>• Wide: F2.8, F3.2, F3.5, F4.0, F4.5, F5.0, F5.6, F6.3, F7.1, F8.0
• Tele: F3.1, F3.5, F4.0, F4.5, F5.0, F5.6, F6.3, F7.1, F8.0</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm width=99>Manual exposure</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm width=384>• Any combination of shutter speed and aperture above
• No Bulb mode</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm width=99>AE Lock</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm width=384>Yes, press meter button with shutter release half-pressed</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top noWrap width=99 height=17>Exposure compen.</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm width=384 height=17>-2 EV to +2 EV in 1/3EV steps </TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top noWrap width=99>Exposure bracketing</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm width=384>• 3 images
• +/- 0.3, 0.7, 1.0, 1.3, 1.7, 2.0 EV</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top noWrap width=99>White Balance</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm width=384>• Auto
• Daylight
• Cloudy
• Tungsten
• Fluorescent
• Fluorescent H
• Flash
• Custom</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top noWrap width=99>WB fine tune</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm width=384>No</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm width=99>Color space</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm width=384>sRGB</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm width=99>

hoto Effects</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm width=384>• Vivid
• Neutral
• Low Sharpening
• Sepia
• Black & White
• Custom</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top noWrap width=99>Image parameters</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm width=384>• Contrast: -, 0, +
• Sharpness: -, 0, +
• Saturation: -, 0, +</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top noWrap width=99>Continuous</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm width=384>1.7 fps, up to 24 frames</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top noWrap width=99>Timelapse</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm width=384>• Interval: 1 - 60 mins
• Shots: up to 100</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top noWrap width=99>Flash</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm width=384>• Built-in, pop-up (electronic)
• Auto, Manual on/off
• Red-eye reduction: on/off
• Slow sync: on/off
• Range (ISO 100): W 1.0 - 4.2 m (3.3 - 13.8 ft), T 1.0 - 3.8 m (3.3 - 12.5 ft)
• Compensation: +/- 2.0 EV in 0.3 EV steps</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm width=99>Flash X-Sync</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm width=384>1/250 sec max.</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top noWrap width=99>External flash </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm width=384>No</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top noWrap width=99>Tripod mount</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm width=384>Yes, metal</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top noWrap width=99>Self-timer</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm width=384>2 or 10 sec delay</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top noWrap width=99>Remote control </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm width=384>Yes, optional wireless (WL-DC100)</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top noWrap width=99>Video out</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm width=384>Yes, selectable NTSC / PAL </TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top noWrap width=99>Storage</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm width=384>• Compact Flash Type I or Type II (Slot 2)
• IBM Microdrive supported
• FAT32 supported (cards >2 GB)</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top noWrap width=99>Storage included</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm width=384>32 MB Compact Flash card</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top noWrap width=99>Viewfinder</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm width=384>• Electronic Viewfinder
• 114,000 pixels
• 100% coverage
• Dioptre adjustment (-5.5 to 1.5 dpt)</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top noWrap width=99>LCD</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm width=384>• 1.5" TFT, 114,000 pixels
• 100% coverage
• Tilt, twist and swivel ('Vari-angle')</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top noWrap width=99>Histogram display</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm width=384>• Record review
• Playback</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top noWrap width=99>Direct print</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm width=384>• Canon Compact Photo Printers and Bubble Jet Printers with direct print
• PictBridge compatible printers</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top noWrap width=99>Other features</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm width=384>• Sound memo (up to 60 sec)
• Histogram
• Orientation sensor
• Playback zoom 2x - 10x</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top noWrap width=99>Connectivity</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm width=384>• USB 1.1
• A/V out
• DC-IN</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top noWrap width=99>

ower</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm width=384>• 4 x AA batteries (NiMH recommended)
• (Optional AC adapter)</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top noWrap width=99>Weight (no batt) </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm width=384>370 g (0.8 lb)</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top noWrap width=99>Weight (inc. batt)</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm width=384>469 g (1.0 lb)</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top noWrap width=99>Dimensions</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm width=384>111 x 78 x 66 mm (4.4 x 3.1 x 2.6 in)</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

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作者: trueprice 时间: 2004-5-31 17:46
标题: I will choose this one
<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=2 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=tdlabelproduct>Canon PowerShot Pro1</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Image </TD><TD class=tdlabelproduct>

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Click here for more...</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Format </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>SLR-like</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Price (street) </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>US$914</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Also known as </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm> </TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Camera body </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm> </TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Release Status </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>New@PMA</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('resolution')]

[/url] Max resolution </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>3264 x 2448</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('resolution')]

[/url] Low resolution </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>2272 x 1704,1600 x 1200, 1024 x 768, 640 x 480</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Image ratio w:h </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>4:3</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('effective pixels')]

[/url] Effective pixels </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>8.0 million</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('sensor')]

[/url] Sensor photo detectors </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>8.3 million</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('sensor')]

[/url] Sensor size </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>2/3" (8.80 x 6.60 mm)</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('sensor')]

[/url] Sensor type </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>CCD</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('colour filter array')]

[/url] ISO rating </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>50, 100, 200, 400</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('focal length')]

[/url] Zoom wide (W) </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>28 mm</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('focal length')]

[/url] Zoom tele (T) </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>200 mm (7.1 x)</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('digital zoom')]

[/url] Digital zoom </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Yes, up to 3.2x</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Auto Focus </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Yes</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('manual focus')]

[/url] Normal focus range </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>50 cm</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('macro')]

[/url] Macro focus range </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>3 / 10 cm</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('white balance')]

[/url] White balance override </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Yes - 6 positions & manual preset</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('aperture')]

[/url] Aperture range </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>F2.4 - F3.5 / F8</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('shutter speed')]

[/url] Min shutter </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>15 sec</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('shutter speed')]

[/url] Max shutter </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>1/4000 sec</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Built-in Flash </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Yes, pop-up</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Flash guide no. </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>5.0 m (16.4 ft) 0 m</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> External flash </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Yes, hot-shoe</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Flash modes </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Auto, Fill-in, Anti-red-eye, Slow Sync, Off</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('focal length multiplier')]

[/url] Focal length multiplier </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm> </TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('exposure compensation')]

[/url] Aperture priority </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Yes</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('shutter priority')]

[/url] Shutter priority </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Yes</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Lens thread </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Yes, optional Bayonet</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Continuous Drive </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Yes, 2.5 fps, max 6 images</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Movie Clips </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Yes, 640 x 480, 15 fps, audio, max 3 mins</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Remote control </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Wireless (optional)</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Tripod mount </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Yes</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Self-timer </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>2 or 10 sec</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('time lapse')]

[/url] Time-lapse recording </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Yes</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('storage card')]

[/url] Storage types </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Compact Flash (Type I or II)</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Microdrive compatible </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Yes</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Storage included </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>64 MB CompactFlash </TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('tiff')]

[/url] Uncompressed format </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>RAW</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('jpeg')]

[/url] Compressed format </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>JPEG (EXIF 2.2)</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Quality Levels </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>RAW, Super-Fine Fine, Normal</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('viewfinder')]

[/url] Viewfinder </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>EVF</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('lcd')]

[/url] LCD </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>2 " (flip-out & twist)</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> LCD Pixels </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>235,000</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Playback zoom </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Yes 2x, 10x</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Video out </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Yes</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('connectivity')]

[/url] Serial </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>No</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('batteries')]

[/url] Battery / Charger </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Yes</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap>[url=javascript:help_popup('batteries')]

[/url] Battery </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Canon Lithium-Ion & charger</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Weight (inc. batteries) </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>640g</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Dimensions </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>118 x 72 x 90 mm (4.6 x 2.8 x 3.5 in)</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm noWrap> Notes </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm>Orientation Sensor, ND filter, "L" lens</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

作者: trueprice 时间: 2004-5-31 17:49
Primary specification / feature differences

<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=2 width=530 align=center border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm> </TD><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm align=middle width=88>Canon
Pro1 </TD><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm align=middle width=88>Nikon
Coolpix 8700 </TD><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm align=middle width=88>Olympus
C-8080 WZ</TD><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm align=middle width=88>Konica Minolta
DiMAGE A2</TD><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm align=middle width=88>Sony
DSC-F828</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top>Sensor CFA</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>RGB</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>RGB</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>RGB</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>RGB</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>RGBE</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top>Lens zoom</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>7x</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>8x</TD><TD class=tdcontentsmlow vAlign=top width=88>5x</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>7x</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>7x</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top>Zoom type</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Motor, ring</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Motor, lever</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Motor, lever</TD><TD class=tdcontentsmhigh vAlign=top width=88>Mechanical, ring</TD><TD class=tdcontentsmhigh vAlign=top width=88>Mechanical, ring</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top>Zoom wide (eq.)</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>28 mm</TD><TD class=tdcontentsmlow vAlign=top width=88>35 mm</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>28 mm</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>28 mm</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>28 mm</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top>Zoom tele (eq.)</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>200 mm</TD><TD class=tdcontentsmhigh vAlign=top width=88>280 mm</TD><TD class=tdcontentsmlow vAlign=top width=88>140 mm</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>200 mm</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>200 mm</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top>Zoom steps</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>40 steps</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>31 steps</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>18 steps</TD><TD class=tdcontentsmhigh vAlign=top width=88>Infinite</TD><TD class=tdcontentsmhigh vAlign=top width=88>Infinite</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top>Stabilized</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>No</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>No</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>No</TD><TD class=tdcontentsmhigh vAlign=top width=88>Yes, CCD</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>No</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top>ND Filter</TD><TD class=tdcontentsmhigh vAlign=top width=88>Yes</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>No</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>No</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>No</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>No</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top>Lens aperture</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>F2.4 - F3.5 </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>F2.8 - F4.2 </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>F2.4 - F3.5 </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>F2.8 - F3.5 </TD><TD class=tdcontentsmhigh vAlign=top width=88>F2.0 - F2.8 </TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top>Normal focus</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>50 cm</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>50 cm</TD><TD class=tdcontentsmlow vAlign=top width=88>80 cm</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>50 cm</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>50 cm</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top>Macro focus</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>3 cm</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>3 cm</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>5 cm</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>13 cm</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>2 cm</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top>Metering modes</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Evaluative
CW avg.
Spot
Spot AF area

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CW avg.
Spot
Spot AF area

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Multi-spot
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Spot
Spot AF area

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CW avg.
Spot</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top>Sensitivity</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>ISO 50 - 400
4 steps</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>ISO 50 - 400
4 steps</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>ISO 50 - 400
9 steps</TD><TD class=tdcontentsmhigh vAlign=top width=88>ISO 64 - 800
5 steps</TD><TD class=tdcontentsmhigh vAlign=top width=88>ISO 64 - 800
5 steps</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top>Continuous</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>2.5 fps
5 frames</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>2.5 fps
5 frames</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>1.6 fps
5 frames</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>2.7 fps
3 frames</TD><TD class=tdcontentsmhigh vAlign=top width=88>2.5 fps
7 frames</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top>Movie clips</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>640, 15 fps
320, 15 fps
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320, 15 fps
Limited</TD><TD class=tdcontentsmhigh vAlign=top width=88>640, 15 fps
320, 15 fps
160, 15 fps
Streaming</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>544, 15/30 fps
320, 15/30 fps
Limited </TD><TD class=tdcontentsmhigh vAlign=top width=88>640, 30 fps
640, 16 fps
160, 8 fps
Streaming </TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top>Color space</TD><TD class=tdcontentsmhigh vAlign=top width=88>sRGB
Adobe RGB</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>sRGB</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>sRGB</TD><TD class=tdcontentsmhigh vAlign=top width=88>sRGB
Adobe RGB</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>sRGB
sYCC</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top>Image params</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Sharpness +/-1
Contrast +/-1
Saturation +/-1</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Sharpness +/-1
Contrast +/-1
Saturation +/-2</TD><TD class=tdcontentsmhigh vAlign=top width=88>Sharpness +/-5
Contrast +/-5
Saturation +/-5
Hue +/-5</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Sharpness +/-1
Contrast +/-5
Saturation +/-5</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Sharpness +/-1
Contrast +/-1
Saturation +/-1
Color mode</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top>LCD</TD><TD class=tdcontentsmhigh vAlign=top width=88>2.0" Tilt/Twist
235,000 pixels</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>1.8" Tilt/Twist
134,000 pixels</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>1.8" Tilt
134,000 pixels</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>1.8" Tilt
113,000 pixels</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>1.8" Tilt
134,000 pixels</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top>EVF</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>235,000 pixels</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>235,000 pixels</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>240,000 pixels</TD><TD class=tdcontentsmhigh vAlign=top width=88>922,000 pixels</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>235,000 pixels</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top>Histogram</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Record review
Playback</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Live view
Playback </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Live view
Direct live view
Record review
Playback </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Live view
Record review
Playback</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Live view
Record review
Playback </TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top>Storage</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Compact Flash</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Compact Flash</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>xD-Picture Card
Compact Flash</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Compact Flash</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>MS Pro
Compact Flash</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top>Connectivity</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>USB 1.1</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>USB 1.1</TD><TD class=tdcontentsmhigh vAlign=top width=88>USB 2.0</TD><TD class=tdcontentsmhigh vAlign=top width=88>USB 2.0</TD><TD class=tdcontentsmhigh vAlign=top width=88>USB 2.0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top>Timelapse</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Yes</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Yes</TD><TD class=tdcontentsmlow vAlign=top width=88>No</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Yes</TD><TD class=tdcontentsmlow vAlign=top width=88>No</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top>Remote control</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Supplied IR</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Optional wired</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Supplied IR</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Optional wired</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Optional wired</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top>Dimensions (mm)</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>118 x 72 x 90 </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>113 x 105 x 78</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>124 x 85 x 99</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>117 x 85 x 114 </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>134 x 91 x 156</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top>Weight (g)</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>640</TD><TD class=tdcontentsmhigh vAlign=top width=88>512</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>724</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>654</TD><TD class=tdcontentsmlow vAlign=top width=88>906</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>From a specification / features point of view all of the cameras provide a very good range of photographic control and features. If we were to pick out one or two cameras I would probably put the Konica Minolta DiMAGE A2, Nikon Coolpix 8700 and Sony DSC-F828 at the top. I'm also a big believer in the significant advantages of mechanically linked zoom rings and the DiMAGE A2 and DSC-F828 are the only two cameras here which offer that.

Performance differences

<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=2 width=530 align=center border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm> </TD><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm align=middle width=88>Canon
Pro1 </TD><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm align=middle width=88>Nikon
Coolpix 8700 </TD><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm align=middle width=88>Olympus
C-8080 WZ</TD><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm align=middle width=88>Konica Minolta
DiMAGE A2</TD><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm align=middle width=88>Sony
DSC-F828</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top>Startup</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Below Average</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Below Average</TD><TD class=tdcontentsmhigh vAlign=top width=88>Very Good</TD><TD class=tdcontentsmhigh vAlign=top width=88>Good</TD><TD class=tdcontentsmhigh vAlign=top width=88>Good</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top>AF speed</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Average</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Average</TD><TD class=tdcontentsmhigh vAlign=top width=88>Good</TD><TD class=tdcontentsmhigh vAlign=top width=88>Good</TD><TD class=tdcontentsmhigh vAlign=top width=88>Good</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top>Off to taken</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Average</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Below Average</TD><TD class=tdcontentsmhigh vAlign=top width=88>Good</TD><TD class=tdcontentsmhigh vAlign=top width=88>Good</TD><TD class=tdcontentsmhigh vAlign=top width=88>Very Good</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top>Shot to shot</TD><TD class=tdcontentsmhigh vAlign=top width=88>Good</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Average</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Average</TD><TD class=tdcontentsmhigh vAlign=top width=88>Good</TD><TD class=tdcontentsmhigh vAlign=top width=88>Good</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top>Continuous</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Average</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Average</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Average</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Average</TD><TD class=tdcontentsmhigh vAlign=top width=88>Good</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top>File Write</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Below Average</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Average</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Average</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88> </TD><TD class=tdcontentsmhigh vAlign=top width=88>Good</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top>Battery Life</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Below Average</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Average</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88> </TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Good</TD><TD class=tdcontentsmhigh vAlign=top width=88>Very Good</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>One camera appears to shine through from a performance point of view and that's the Sony DSC-F828 which was almost always responsive to use and delivers a more 'real time' photography experience. The Olympus C-8080 Wide Zoom also performed very well, its sub one second startup time is a real eye opener.

Image quality differences

<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=2 width=530 align=center border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm> </TD><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm align=middle width=88>Canon
Pro1 </TD><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm align=middle width=88>Nikon
Coolpix 8700 </TD><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm align=middle width=88>Olympus
C-8080 WZ</TD><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm align=middle width=88>Konica Minolta
DiMAGE A2</TD><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm align=middle width=88>Sony
DSC-F828</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top>Resolution</TD><TD class=tdcontentsmhigh vAlign=top width=88>Very Good</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Average</TD><TD class=tdcontentsmhigh vAlign=top width=88>Very Good</TD><TD class=tdcontentsmlow vAlign=top width=88>Below Average</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Good</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top>ISO noise</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Average</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Average</TD><TD class=tdcontentsmhigh vAlign=top width=88>Good</TD><TD class=tdcontentsmhigh vAlign=top width=88>Good</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Above Average</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top>Auto WB</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Average</TD><TD class=tdcontentsmhigh vAlign=top width=88>Very Good</TD><TD class=tdcontentsmhigh vAlign=top width=88>Good</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Average</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Average</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top>Flash perf.</TD><TD class=tdcontentsmhigh vAlign=top width=88>Good</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Average</TD><TD class=tdcontentsmhigh vAlign=top width=88>Good</TD><TD class=tdcontentsmlow vAlign=top width=88>

oor</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Average</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top>Night exp.</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Good</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Good</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Good</TD><TD class=tdcontentsmlow vAlign=top width=88>Average</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Good</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top>Macro</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Average</TD><TD class=tdcontentsmhigh vAlign=top width=88>Very Good</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Good</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Good</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Average</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top>Distortion</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Average</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Average</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Average</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Average</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Average</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top>Vignetting</TD><TD class=tdcontentsmlow vAlign=top width=88>Below Average</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Average</TD><TD class=tdcontentsmhigh vAlign=top width=88>Good</TD><TD class=tdcontentsmlow vAlign=top width=88>Below Average</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Above Average</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top>Fringing</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Average</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Average</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Average</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>Average</TD><TD class=tdcontentsmlow vAlign=top width=88>

oor</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdlabelsimpsm vAlign=top>Add. issues</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>None</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>None</TD><TD class=tdcontentsm vAlign=top width=88>None</TD><TD class=tdcontentsmlow vAlign=top width=88>Soft images</TD><TD class=tdcontentsmlow vAlign=top width=88>Green hue shift</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

作者: chenzhepeter 时间: 2004-5-31 18:31
长焦机里面，S1跟松下Fz10根本不能比。玩具而已

作者: topjoy 时间: 2004-5-31 18:54
我看了一下评论，应该还可以，就是分辨率低了一点。
http://ca.pricegrabber.com/rating_getprodrev.php/masterid=2301615/id_type=masterid
Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ10K Digital Camera 的分辨率，焦距方面，指数更高，两个机器的价格很相近。但不知道为什么Panasonic在北美数码相机市场为什么占有率明显不如Canon?

作者: xiao__b 时间: 2004-5-31 22:25
事实上，不管在哪里
Panasonic的占有率都不如canon

作者: chenzhepeter 时间: 2004-5-31 22:36
因为松下的莱卡镜头，制造难度高，成品率低，Fz的产量自然低很多。
佳能这款S1简直是让Fans大失所望，相比3年前的机皇PRo90根本没有可比之处，佳能有的是技术，但没有必要在S1这种中档定位的机子上使用。
S1的竞争对手本来就不打算是Fz10这种相当手动的机子。S1的目标是美能达Z1，Z2，奥令巴斯C760.770这种傻瓜长焦机，利用S1能抗手振的功能，能够对这些对手有压倒性优势。

还有卖的多的只能说明市场做得好，不能说明产品好。国内的垃圾网易拍卖的都比佳能都多，这能说明什么？

再说，Fz10的闪光灯热靴，手动变焦环，还有全程f2.8大光圈，当然还有4百万像素，这些性能是S1以及其他长焦机根本不能比的。

作者: chenzhepeter 时间: 2004-5-31 22:44
佳能PRo1就更是一个笑话了，八百万的机子，效果连自家六百万的300D都不如，居然卖的比后者还贵。用上L头更是好看不中用，这么小的CCD面积，再好的镜头也出不了效果。

作者: chenzhepeter 时间: 2004-5-31 22:47
其实佳能完全可以推出一款成像技术成熟一点的6百万Pro100,续写PRo90当年长焦霸主神化，而不是出一款S1跟那些不带防震的玩具长焦机抢占市场。而且S1价格不低，如果按佳能现在的发展计划，年底Fz20推出时，下一代S2的差距就更大了/

作者: chenzhepeter 时间: 2004-5-31 22:50

Fz10面前，其他长焦机都像是玩具，何况S1。

作者: chenzhepeter 时间: 2004-5-31 22:55
不过买S1也比买其他长焦机划算，那些不带防震的长焦机，380mm绝对是鸡肋，照一张糊一张。

作者: topjoy 时间: 2004-6-1 20:42
谢谢各位高手的热情指点，我想先用用再说，反正不满意再换，Futureshop的服务就是好，不象再国内。

作者: trueprice 时间: 2004-6-1 20:47

Post by chenzhepeter
不过买S1也比买其他长焦机划算，那些不带防震的长焦机，380mm绝对是鸡肋，照一张糊一张。

请问你用哪款相机?

作者: chenzhepeter 时间: 2004-6-1 21:33
我是才从美国网站买的Fz10，价格比Montreal便宜多了，这里居然卖到CDN899，还不打税。
我从美国买，加运费，加关税，加消费税一共才760，当然如果直接在美国买，680就够了。

来张大炮特写！

作者: chenzhepeter 时间: 2004-6-1 21:45
这款机子无论从外形还是功能，都想当威猛，走在街上，相当拉风，这几天外出采风已经深有体会。

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作者: trueprice 时间: 2004-6-2 12:58
Could you tell me that you bought camera from which web site?

作者: chenzhepeter 时间: 2004-6-2 13:13
价格各个网站都在变化，我只是因为这个网站打折才买的
这个网站是加入borderfree计划的网站，所以从美国买东西没有关税。如果不是免关税的网站，海关对于数码相机可能征收到15%的关税。
http://www.etronics.com/

作者: trueprice 时间: 2004-6-2 13:23

Post by chenzhepeter
价格各个网站都在变化，我只是因为这个网站打折才买的
这个网站是加入borderfree计划的网站，所以从美国买东西没有关税。如果不是免关税的网站，海关对于数码相机可能征收到15%的关税。
http://www.etronics.com/

Thank you very much!

作者: trueprice 时间: 2004-6-2 13:24

Review based on a production Leica Digilux 2

On 1st December 2003 Leica announced the all new Digilux 2 digital camera. The five megapixel Digilux 2 has a unique 'retro' design and style with an all metal case and rubber coating which look more like an analogue film camera of the 1970's. The quality 28 - 90 mm equiv. F2.0 - F2.4 Leica lens has the appearance of a removable 35 mm lens (although it is fixed to the camera body). The controls have a tactile response and have been cleverly designed to be used in a fully automatic position or an immediate manual setting.

作者: trueprice 时间: 2004-6-2 13:25

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作者: chenzhepeter 时间: 2004-6-2 13:34
从成像来看，莱卡这机子仅仅五百万的像素，效果远低于大Coms的数码单反，但其价格直逼佳能10D。我严重怀疑这款机子的销量能否上千？估计都是那群特怀旧的德国佬才回去买来搜藏。

作者: chenzhepeter 时间: 2004-6-2 13:36
我才发现10D已经只卖1300美元了，Digilux 2居然还敢卖1800美元。是莱卡疯了还是买家疯了？

作者: trueprice 时间: 2004-6-2 13:47
Maybe its lens is good..........

作者: trueprice 时间: 2004-6-2 14:46
30主要是针对n的80，f80在功能上高于30，有点测。但80的机身是塑料的。30之所以没有点测主要是因为3有点测，30要是有了点测，岂不是影响了3的销路？

作者: chenzhepeter 时间: 2004-6-3 12:43
它的镜头是很好，但是对于500万像素的机子，它这样的镜头并不能发挥多大用处。
即使是PRo1的L头，由于CCD面积太小，躁点太多，这样好镜头也于事无补。

作者: wstone 时间: 2004-6-3 19:44
我两周前在futureshop买到Canon Powershot G5,只有$749.99。感觉还不错，对这台机子我已经盯价格盯了半年了，终于等到了自己满意的价位。不过三年的保险可也蛮贵的:frown: 。不管怎么说，对我这样的摄影业余选手来说，这款机子就够用了。

作者: topjoy 时间: 2004-6-3 20:37
wstone,futureshop 三年的保险? Isthe manufacuture's warranty or the futureshop's sale package? I was told if I want to choose the 3 years warranty, I have to pay at least 199.99, it's expensive. Additionally, I think the probability of the failure is very low, so I did not buy it.
I checked the website of futureshop, the price is still 899.99!!!:mad:

In my opinion, the resolution is perfect, 5M, but the optical zoom is only 4x.
But you are very lucky, you got the lowest price, please refer to this website, you can check the lowest offer from all the online-seller.

http://ca.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php?masterid=866753&mode=googleca

作者: 环游世界 时间: 2004-6-3 21:40
Konica Minolta Dimage A2 Digital Camera

专家对这款相机有何建议？

作者: trueprice 时间: 2004-6-3 23:31

Post by 环游世界
Konica Minolta Dimage A2 Digital Camera

专家对这款相机有何建议？

看看这个link:

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/konicaminoltaa2/

作者: 环游世界 时间: 2004-6-4 08:39
看的评测很多，但没有听到实际的用后反应。

作者: chenzhepeter 时间: 2004-6-4 10:38
A2的上一代A1是市面上最后推出的500万高端消费机。美能达是典型的技术狂热主义者，A1当时集成了很多独创的功能，如CCD防震，手动变焦环，28mm广角，7X光学镜头。不管人们承不承认A1是500万机中的末代王者，它的价格直到04年4月依旧在6000多人民币。

A2是A1的继承者，一上市也被看作800万消费级中王者机，硬件性能只有PRo1能够匹敌，并且价格相对不贵。但A2严重的躁点问题也很麻烦，这个问题自7，7hi时期就有。相比来说，Pro1佳能的图像就干净很多。不过PRo1相比自家300D差距都很大，尤其在高ISO实在不划算

总的说，800万机子价格定位普遍偏高，没有和低端单反拉卡距离。如果在下对数码并不在行，买好机子只是为了面子，那么买800万机子纯属浪费。如果你对摄影有所爱好，则肯定有传统相机镜头一大把，这样肯定去买数码单反。

所以说，A2虽好，是不适合你，自己看了。

作者: 环游世界 时间: 2004-6-5 07:46
谢谢chenzhepeter的指点。
首先，买好相机并不是为了面子，而且也不是发烧狂。只是玩过一二台相机都不满意，不管是色彩还原、长焦、广角，还是操作功能方面。所以想找台业余中的比较好点。
如果您选择有何建议？

作者: chenzhepeter 时间: 2004-6-5 10:45
转贴：A1/828对决300D 我的升级杂谈(ZT)

偶然在PCHOME.NET的DC版看到这片文章, 这位老兄的经历和看法我也有切身体会,推荐给正在打算升级的各位...... 仅限于打算向更高阶段发展的发烧友.... 如果只是偶尔玩玩就不要考虑这么多了.

原文:http://article.pchome.net/2004/01/20/16036.htm

本文作者：YU

消费DC升级的时候，是升级到消费旗舰DC，还是DSLR？

据我所知，老的消费DC消费旗舰（S602/G5/717/D7i/5700）用户不光有升级到A1，828的，也有升级到DSLR 300D的。事实上影响大家选择并决定升级的因素真是五花八门，而最终结果则是因人而异，各取所需，皆大欢喜。随着DSLR价格的下降，人们也常常会把消费DC消费旗舰A1/828和300D当作升级目标并进行比较，我在这里就这个问题结合自己的经验谈一谈：

我在S602升级时两条主要原因(噪点/对焦和快门速度):

1.拍日出日落的时候,发现大量的噪点,惨不忍睹；

2.拍模特走台步, 对焦时, 模特对着你笑, 拍下来却是个后脑勺。

升级的时候也曾经作过大量的对比分析，发现300D可以解决我的上述问题，于是就选了300D。

当时根据自己的经验分析，曾经妄自得出一个结论，老的消费旗舰用户如602/G5/717/D7i/5700，升级的时候不会升到A1/828，而会直接升到300D这样的DSLR。但实际情况并非如此。

很多消费DC及消费DC消费旗舰用户的升级理念还是延着消费DC道路继续走下去，目标是下一台增加像素/增加功能如AS/增加广角28/提高操作性能等新型号的消费DC消费旗舰。

大家都爱比镜头，比光圈，比焦段（广角，长焦），比功能，比像素，还有出于对外形喜欢。回想自己当年买S602的时候，就是喜欢S602 的外型，加上什么600万像素。而到我这次买300D 时候，直到买的那天之前，从来都没见过实物。但就是在这个时候我已经知道自己需要的是什么了。

曾经见到一位S602的用户升级到A1后，感觉并非像想像的那么好。他说图的是28 广角和AS。记得他说不选300D的理由是不愿意配更多的镜头，不愿意换镜头。

从画质方面来看现有的消费旗舰DC拍出来的照片画质都差不多，大家都是半斤八两，彼此彼此。相对于DSLR来说所有的消费DC消费旗舰都是噪点王。都是死守ISO最低档，高出一档就麻点立现。光线不好的情况下，即使是用最低档ISO时暗部还会有噪点，色斑。大家就只好在比较其他的指标上下功夫了。

我想最重要的障碍是换镜头问题。爱比镜头。我等从消费DC入门的，长久以来“一镜走天涯”的概念是根深蒂固的，是拒绝换镜头的。当消费DC升级时的评判基本标准和出发点就是一镜。消费DC的小面积CCD，镜头比较容易做到大光圈大变焦。这是消费DC的优势。

用消费DC的大变焦镜头（大光圈/焦段）来和DSLR比较：DSLR总要多配镜头才能覆盖消费DC的一镜的焦段；大光圈的好镜头还要贵；要多花钱啦；带镜头出门不方便；换镜头进灰麻烦等等。最后的得出结论总是DSLR永远也比不过消费DC的一镜。消费DC就是因为不能换镜头，不便相互比较。总还觉得自己这一镜还是很不错的呢。如果你跳不出一镜走天下这个圈子，你就永远属于消费DC范畴，到此一游……当然你自己觉得爽也没问题，毕竟就是方便。

只是对于一些已经非常爱好摄影，已经拍的不错的，还想继续升级走下去的人感到惋惜。虽暂时无缘得窥DSLR另一番绚丽多彩景象，并无大碍。消费旗舰升消费旗舰，叫做小小爽。但是错过DSLR之后，他是在走弯路，很可能最后还要再绕回到DSLR这条路上来。钱可是白扔了7000/8000元？

要想升级DSLR必须打掉一镜走天涯的念头。这可不是一件简单的事情。我用了300D之后，还在到处寻找可以一镜走天涯的这个“一镜”呢。
见到了24-200/28-200/28-300mm的镜头就兴奋万分。可见毒害之深远。后来又退而求其次，美其名曰：“两镜走天涯。”后来再退称之为“三镜走天涯。”KAO，最后“背包走天涯”吧！即便DSLR中也有一镜走天涯；还有变焦派；还有定焦派（那镜头就更多了）。

DSLR就是要换镜头，换镜头绝对不是什么负担，决对不是什么缺点。就是因为能换镜头，你就有无数镜头的选择，你就可以有各种各样的道路可以走——多得让你眼花缭乱。相对消费DC而言是根本性的质变并具有的无可限量的升级空间和潜力。能换镜头就是任何消费DC永远都不能迄及的最关键的制胜点。那一镜就把你给限定死了。

很多人提道DSLR 时就非要上好镜头，镜头投资一下子就升到万元。实际并非如此。

穷人的玩法，咱就用鸡头/狗头。我原本曾经想走CANON的路数配置,最便宜的组合是300D 加狗头（18-55mm，相当于28-90mm）8890，加上55-200mm（相当于90-320mm）约1400元。

后来上网看看如何搭配镜头时发现镜头多的让人眼花撩乱，配套方法也是五花八门。但是在这混乱的搭配组合中，发现几乎每一个人都在推荐一个叫做标头的50mm f/1.8II的定焦镜头，很便宜，只要650元（可惜我买的时候没货，等买到的时候已经是680了）。于是我的穷人镜头搭配组合最后成了：狗头18-55mm；标头50mm f/1,8II(730?);70-300mm(1200?)

当用过了50mm f/1.8II定焦镜头之后，尽管取景不怎么方便，但对镜头的视角有了新体会。大光圈爽，高ISO爽，背景虚化爽。看到拍出来的照片，才知道变焦镜头的差距。现在用标头的时候比较多，室内拍人像，拍风景都用，感觉真正能用好标头都很不容易。只有取景万不得已的时候或者要广阔壮观的景象时才用狗头的广角。

算来用300D已经快4个月了，只用两个头，感觉玩的也挺爽。只是拍日出日落的时候，觉得太阳得小，看到别人拍的鸟儿，非常漂亮，也有置办个70-300mm长焦(1200?)的念头。业余菜鸟，上万元的镜头是不会去买的。我到希望多出些APS规格的（EF-S）镜头。CMOS面积比35mm 的面积小，镜头价格必然便宜，光圈大些, 大变焦。最好都像50mm标头这样即便宜又好。

DSLR永远可以有相对应的某一个焦段的镜头打败所有一镜大变焦的消费DC。可以非常方便地比较不同的镜头并知道他们之间的差别，你会特别注意每个镜头的最佳成像光圈值/焦段区域，甜点？每个镜头都有个性，值得你仔细钻研把玩品味。

知道了拍不同的题材需要用不同的镜头。山水风光；人像，飞禽，走兽。广角镜头；人像镜头；长焦镜头；定焦镜头；超声波马达；防抖动镜头。。。这一切将引领你走入自己喜爱的拍摄领域。换镜头又是在升级，魅力更胜过相机，你还可以走得更远。。。

DSLR与消费DC消费旗舰比画质？没有比较就没有鉴别。看过DSLR如丝绸般滑顺的照片画质之后，再回过头来看自己原来用消费DC 消费旗舰拍的照片，原本根本没有注意到的习以为常的，可以忍受的麻麻点点的噪点突然变得非常难看恶心。这才领悟到什么叫做不堪回首了，你才意识到自己是绝对不能回头了。如果你真想继续在这条路走下去，DSLR是业余爱好者的必然归宿。

消费DC消费旗舰，有号称准专业级别或者有号称专业级别的，而300D却是老老实实说自己是定位业余爱好者入门级别的。奉劝诸位一定要搞清楚这些广告用语，千万别以为准专业/专业级别的消费DC消费旗舰就真的可以和入门级别的DSLR一较高低了！

事实上，现今没有任何一款消费DC消费旗舰能和DSLR平起平坐！消费DC就是消费DC，消费旗舰也算在内。DSLR就是DSLR。根本就不是一个档次的东西，差距大了去了。虽然现在两者的价格都是很贵。

消费DC升级到消费DC消费旗舰，升级到DSLR。处在不同水平/阶段人们，当时的看法也各不相同。购买消费DC消费旗舰和购买DSLR是两种不同的群体。升级到适合自己的，自己喜欢的就好。但是在资金允许的时候，在DSLR降价来临时，一定要认真考虑DSLR。

我非常喜欢引用一位FC DX的话：“有了消费DC就不用FC，有了DSLR就不用消费DC。”这句话涵盖了FC/DC时代演变过程的真邃——这就是数码相机的时代！

以我看来，数码单反有以下几点好处:画质好，快门延时小，景深感强，可升级镜头。
消费高端有以下好处：一次性投资，像素高（800万比数码单反600万高，但画质相差很多），镜头范围广，A2，8080甚至为28-200mm，若300D配上此头，非防震头价格即达500美元。A2,Pro1带防震功能，若300D上防震头，价格再添50%。高端消费机功能一般比低端数码单反更丰富，娱乐性高。

所以说，如果只是出于娱乐用途，不是不可以买高端消费，而摄影爱好者迟早会上数码单反，长远来看，投资的镜头可以再用，相比划算。而且现在一些高端消费价格已超300D这样的单反，实在让人花钱花得不值。如果高端消费与低端单反价格拉开一定距离，应该才更适合购买。

而且你说指的数码相机用得不爽，很多是消费机的通病，非数码单反可解之，望三思

作者: 环游世界 时间: 2004-6-5 13:52
谢谢指点，此文受益非浅

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