I used toefl apply for cs and also receive the letter to ask me ake celdt, I destroy the letter, and now I directly take engl courses. some my friend who has toefl went to take celdt,the result is many of them have to study esl course. So this school just give you a trap and hope you jump inside, so never take celdt test if you have toefl.
but now encs department change the policy, which is all engineer and cs student...
http://www.encs.concordia.ca/scs/content/EDCT.htm
<TABLE cellSpacing=5 cellPadding=10 width=778 align=center border=1><TBODY><TR><TD>ENCS 272 Composition and Argumentation for Engineers
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top>All students must meet a University Writing Skills Requirement before completing 30 credits. Your student record will indicate if you have already met this requirement. In the past, this requirement was met by either passing the University Writing Test or by taking a sequence of English or French Courses.
Students in Engineering and Computer Science may now meet the University Writing Skills Requirement by either obtaining a grade of C- in the new course ENCS 272 Composition and Argumentation for Engineers, or by writing and obtaining C- in a challenge exam for this course. The first opportunity for ongoing students to write the challenge exam will be in late August and again in early September of 2005. Note that ENCS 272 will generally not be counted towards a student’s engineering degree.
Further information will be forthcoming throughout the summer.
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