itisme

我友将登陆Montreal, 想带过来一个小型酿酒机。 自用，非商业。体积很小(40X40CM)。
：请问：
有没有法律问题？是否违法？
: h* V5 ~7 W/ W  d有没有税税收问题？是否要交关税？
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montrealpost

有没有法律问题？ - 没有
是否违法？ - 否
有没有税税收问题？- don't know (no tax for immigrant(登陆), no?)
是否要交关税？- don't know (no tax for immigrant(登陆), no?)
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No such thing as 小型酿酒机, give me the name of the machine, I should be able to tell u price.  May be it's not worth carrying.  
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8 H& F+ T8 |" M/ z5 ^4 t! ZAlthough it's not easy to find 2nd hand wine making equipment, but normally only ~10%-50% of original price.  Most people just throw them out, not worth the trouble in selling.

montrealpost

There is only one "酿酒机" that I'm aware of, made somewhere on the  West coast in US.  I tried but could not find their web page for my wine link.  
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It's a hugh silvery egg ~$X000 US, quite cute, computerized control.  Belongs to million dollar homes and idiots to show off.  Real wine makers all laughed and prefered grape juices instead.

, ?! Y8 ~; R7 e6 i9 KI have a feeling that it's a filtering machine, hopfully it's not a carboy.  Insufficient info to judge.

itisme

http://www.zs91.com/html/0052/sale/info_view_52440913.htm
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是白酒。造几瓶就够本了。
& H  p0 B0 `3 a有些人好这口。

montrealpost

白酒=~"liquer" = illegal  (sorry, too tired, can't spell)
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There is no picture on your link, please post a picture here and we'll see what we can do about it.  I'm sure others are interested too.

Don't remember the technical term now.  Some people do it in their garage.  Mostly home build equipments.  I've seen a simple set up with something like 2 white buckets+ heater.  Will post when I come across the link again.

Thanks for the interesting link!
Are they kidding -  . . . 大连洋葱葡萄酒、芹菜干红葡萄酒 http://www.zs91.com/html/0052/sale/info_view_521007337.htm
Is there a picture for the beer making equipment?  What the ~hedd do they sell for RMB$2000?  Good night!

montrealpost

白酒 = Spirit = Liqueur = 烈酒
你友的小型酿酒机 not 酿酒机, should be 蒸馏器(distiller/distilling machinery).
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" ?. P( x" @8 ~& K" V- [( v自酿/家庭用途酿制葡萄酒= LEGAL (believe there is a maximum limit  of ~200/250 gallons/year)
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商业酿制葡萄酒/烈酒 = NEED LICENCE

BUT . . . 拥有蒸馏器非违法 . . . with sentimental value(e.g. from grandfather); "~art object" for display at home; etc.
& j1 F; F( h. e+ tBut . . .  if they suspect your 蒸馏器 is for "商业用途", and u are not licenced to make spirits, u are in big sh*it.

(Above based on general principle of wine/spirit making, I don't know 白酒 but should be right)

itisme

http://www.21food.cn/offerdetail/216610.html
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) t" _) o5 G- k# q9 ESeems dangerous. I probably will suggest him not bring it. It is a bad idea to get any trouble as a new immigrant - this will be his first landing in Canada as a new immigrant.

Thanks MontrealPost!

montrealpost

U are welcome!  Whenever he has access to container for moving a lot of stuffs from China to here, just throw it in with the rest of Kitchen Utensils, just pull off the tubings.
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p.s.
9 V! G1 i- ~/ ~! b& H! g1.  I believe the tubings and chinese wine yeast are expansive here, he may want to ship spares.
2.  To those who are interested, please do your own search on web for ~"build plans for distiller".  Apparently it's not too complicated nor expansive.  Sorry, I can't even use the screw driver properly.
6 i8 n& |$ }1 R1 f4 Q3 c3.  Basic principle is (1) make wine (easy), (2) heat wine up to certain temperature, vaporize alcohol, (3) cool off vapore into the 45-90% alcohol in liquid form.  That all!

itisme

I am thinking maybe he should mail it to me (no more than 500 yuan fee) - I really do not want him getting into trouble at the airport.
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wonder whether anybody will charge me tax? how do they know what it is and how much it worth? I do not want trouble either although I do not mind spending some money on it. Anyway, it is really an interesting machine.
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  F* i# s  V: ?) C* H! Q$ XMOntrealpost, come join us to celebrate the first bottle of production. Hm, I can smell it now.....