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火炬缘何变路线?旧金山市长比法国人还有心计

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发表于 2008-4-12 16:21 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
简单意思:中国人太多了,火炬从他们中间走真是太顺利不过了,他们那阵势,令“藏
独”窒息。不能让中国人得逞。看到这局势,我是最后一分钟做出的决定:给火炬手两
个选择,要不整个活动取消,要不就改程。 

你们一定要读,不要怕生气就不读, 看一看这些美国人是怎样把事情还包装得有头有
面的。 这一套, 比那些法国人还有心计啊!

原文:

THE OLYMPIC TORCH IN S.F.

THE FIX: Pro-China crowds attempt to stifle dissenters

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/ar ... 4/09/MNIG1032A0.DTL

For all the talk of protests leading up to the Olympic torch relay, we didn'
t hear much from the supporters of China.

We learned why early on Wednesday morning. They planned to take over the
event.

By 10 a.m. at AT&T Park, where the torch run was supposed to begin, it was
obvious that the fix was in.

Thousands of supporters were already there, unloaded from dozens of buses
parked across from the ball park. (One torch relay insider told me some in
the crowd had been bused from as far away as Los Angeles.) During the day
Chronicle reporters were told by some supporters that they had been bused
into San Francisco from the South Bay, the East Bay and Sacramento by the
Chinese Consulate and Chinese American groups.

They were waving thousands of huge, red Chinese flags or holding up
identical, professional-looking placards that read "Beijing, 2008, torch
relay."

The official word is that the torch route was drastically changed because of
"public safety," but the crowd at AT&T Park was no threat to the runners.
In fact, they broke into wild cheers when someone in a torchbearer's track
suit walked down the street. But mayoral spokesman Nathan Ballard might have
been closer to the truth when he said that the new route let people "enjoy
the torch rather than political kabuki theater."

By 1 p.m., the appointed time for the torch runners to begin the relay, the
crowd had grown even bigger. China supporters far outnumbered any human
rights protesters, and anyone from the small pockets of "Free Tibet"
protesters was quickly surrounded by the crowd and shouted down. When a
Tibet supporter held up a sign, a Chinese supporter would sidle up, the wind
would catch his flag, and it would obliterate the sign from the view of the
cameras.

"We suspected that the Chinese government would want a public relations
spectacle," said Kate Woznow, campaign coordinator for Students for a Free
Tibet. "Something that they could broadcast back home."

Those inside the command center say city officials and Mayor Gavin Newsom
watched the spectacle with growing concern. Although there was a brief
scuffle with "Team Tibet" supporters around a bus early in the morning, the
vast majority of the crowd was flag-waving China supporters. Sending the
torch down those streets would have been like providing the Chinese
government with a made-for-television commercial to show that hardly anyone
in San Francisco - or North America - had any qualms about human rights
abuses in China.

Newsom won't come out and say that, but he did concede that he took the
decision right down to the final minutes.

"Literally, at 1 o'clock, we had two choices," he said in a phone
conversation en route to the closing ceremony at the airport. "We could
cancel the event or move forward in a different manner. We went to the
torchbearers themselves, and overwhelmingly they said they supported the
change."

Taking the torch to the other side of town and skirting the whole enormous
pro-China crowd at the ballpark might have improved the chances for public
safety, but it also gave the torch back to San Francisco. Suddenly, it was
back to the original idea, a run through the streets with a symbol of the
upcoming Olympic Games, not a carefully planned political charade.

Because this, apparently, is the Chinese government's idea of free speech.
They speak freely, and everyone else gets shouted down. Frankly, there is no
denying that they were well organized. I took a minute to talk to a Tibetan
protester, Kal Sang, but I was quickly joined by two young men who listened
to the interview and began to interject derogatory comments.

"I hope America hears the voice of these people," said one of the
interrupters, Jun Liu, from San Mateo. "The media pretended they would be
fair, but they are not just biased, they are extremely biased."

Sang, a Tibetan from Minnesota, who had done nothing more than stand with a
friend wearing a "Free Tibet" shirt, was surrounded by critics. A woman
shouted at her, "You know nothing!" and "Go to Tibet to see for yourself."

"They put pressure on us," said Sang, who looked like a soccer mom. "They
try to get us to push them, but we are nonviolent. We are not against the
Olympics. They should hold the Olympics. But we are speaking for people who
do not have a voice."

At that moment, the China supporters seemed to think that they'd carried the
day. The "Free Tibet" crowd had been harassed to the point that they packed
up and walked toward the Ferry Building. It appeared that the torch would
be coming down the street any minute, and the news photos and video would
feature thousands and thousands of cheering China supporters waving red
flags.

A cocky young man walked past me and read his sign out loud, "Welcome to
Beijing," he said.

It was about then that it was announced that the torch was unexpectedly up
in the Marina district, running through tree-lined neighborhoods past a
small crowd of ordinary people without a political point to make.

Just for future reference, China - or for that matter, anyone else: You can
try to take over, but good luck. This is San Francisco.

C.W. Nevius' column appears on Tuesday, Thursday, and Sunday. E-mail him at
cwnevius@sfchronicle.com.
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-4-12 16:31 | 只看该作者

四月七日奧運聖火巴黎傳遞親臨記-From a Taiwan Friend's email

四月七日奧運聖火巴黎傳遞親臨記


4月7日奧運聖火在巴黎傳遞,這是歷史性的大事,我也去看了。台灣看不到奧運聖火傳
遞,巴黎的我一定要看到。

在我所站的地方,身旁很多大陸留學生(我知道他們都是志願去的,因為有一位是我朋
友),拿著他們的五星紅旗以及自製標語。只有二位藏人(面容很容易辨別),身披雪
山獅子旗(西藏獨立的國旗),藏人的人數,比我想像的要少得多。倒是很多法國人,
或拿藏獨旗,或拿黑色小旗,上面畫有五個手銬環,排列方式與奧運的五環相同,不過
意思就是抵制奧運。\n
在等待聖火到來時,雙邊人馬犬牙交錯,互相高舉旗幟吶喊。一般說來,法國人理性平
和,只喊叫而不會動手;而大陸同學也同樣理性、克制,特別是他們展現出來的,強烈
捍衛奧運的意志,愛護國土尊嚴的熱情,以及高唱他們國歌的嘶喊,實在令人動容。大
家都知道,大陸不准遊行示威的,所以這是大陸朋友的第一次遊行洗禮,就能表現出這
樣高的素質,委實難能可貴。站出來遊行的人,都很年輕,25歲上下吧。英雄出少年,
民主的根基就此在留學海外的菁英紮下,這是他們養成公民素養的第一步。所以我深信
在未來,兩岸一定能找到自己的民主道路。

     不過藏獨就真的很可惡了!以前我反對藏獨,是從中華民國國家的法理與政治角
度出發,毫無跟他們實際接觸的經驗,今天才真正第一次面對面的碰到。他們狂喊口號
也倒罷了,本就是他們的意見自由,而且大家也都在喊。但居然有一位藏獨仁兄,趁一
位大陸女同學不備,竟然搶了女同學手上的五星紅旗!表達西藏獨立的意見就罷了,怎
能搶別人的旗呢?這是什麼奧步?不是說藏獨愛好和平與民主嗎??所言與所為,根本
不相符。那被搶旗的大陸女生愕然,繼而高喊,要去搶回來,那藏人(中年男子)硬是
不給他。幾個大陸男同學看到,上前去住搶,那藏人也沒有死守的心,拉扯幾下,五星
旗就被男生們給搶回來了,這時那女生已經哭了。不過她拿到之後,就高喊Chine!
Chine(法文的中國)!五星旗雖不是我的國旗,但看到這女孩護旗的堅持,仍令人動
容。(後來聽到其他大陸同學說,他們還碰到被藏獨用手指戳身體的,踢你一腳的,特
意推擠你的,但警察一來就立刻裝作是自己被打,躺到地上耍賴等等,不一而足。還真
讓我想起以前民進黨高喊警察打人的抗爭模式。)

對了,藏獨還真有錢。抵制奧運的黑色旗幟,免費發送,在地鐵裡就有人免費送,愛拿
多少拿多少。大陸學生則說,五星旗還要自己買(向華商買,也有人熱心從大陸國內訂
購寄來),有人向他們的使館要求發送,大陸使館沈默沒答覆。在電視新聞看到,藏獨
還在巴黎鐵塔上面,掛上一面巨大的黑色抵制旗幟,光製作大旗就要不少錢。他們還要
聘請專業人士,爬上鐵塔,將大旗懸掛起來,這些要花多少錢?在聖火經過之處,香榭
大道的一棟大樓裡,還「及時」地垂下一幅巨大的黑色抵制旗幟(其他經過的地方都有
那麼一兩面黑色大旗出現),抵制的計畫,擬定與執行的真周密啊!他們非常有組織,
而這些維持組織運作的錢,又是誰出的呢???藏獨絕對不可憐,他們有充沛的經費來
源,是宣傳與遊說(特別是 lobby)上的強者。至於錢怎麼來的,我沒證據,不去推測。

也碰到解放報 Liberation 的記者 Alexis Danjon,說要採訪,求之不得。法國媒體報
導非常偏頗,有你法國記者找上門,正好。我說了不少,不知道他是否會登,呵呵(今
天查證,果然沒登。我也預見到了,解放報是非常支持藏獨的左派報紙。跟他們立場不
一樣的,就不登)。也還碰到兩名法國實習記者(還在記者學校唸書),大概都說了差
不多的內容。一是堅持法國媒體應該平衡報導,仔細求證;可以不輕信大陸官方提供的
消息,但也一樣,不該單方面輕信達賴方面所提供的消息。二是批評達賴是政教合一制
度,而法國之所以民主成功,就在於政教分離,應該以這角度切入,觀察達賴被他們所
忽略的一面:大革命開始時,就已經推動政教分離,你們法國人自己都砸毀了許多教堂
。在1905年的政教分離法推動時,法國將教堂財產全部收歸國有,或地方自治團體所有
,甚至跟梵帝岡斷交。法國警察欲進入教堂清點財產時,跟拒絕接受國家法律的法國教
徒衝突,造成許多人受傷。2004年你們法國人又新定了另一個政教分離法,禁止所有明
顯易見的宗教標誌,出現在學校裡。就是這樣200年的努力,法國才能變成民主國家。
你們若希望PRC成為民主國家,特別是西藏地區能接受民主觀念,能接受另外的宗教觀
念,而不只被藏傳佛教鎖死,你們就應該協助中國,推動政教分離。三,大家都有意見
表達自由,但自由以不妨礙他人為限。現在聖火傳遞,也是一項應該保護的意見自由,
而且是世界性的體育意見表達自由;但許多藏獨的支持者,卻揚言用滅火器把火炬的火
給滅掉,或搶入傳遞行列之中,意圖搶走火炬,這已嚴重違反他人的自由,本當禁止。
可是在你們法國,卻還容忍此類行為,不少人物還以搶走火炬、杯葛聖火傳遞為榮,這
證明你們的自由界限從來就不清楚,你們很多的講法,也是自相矛盾,何能給別人做所
謂的人權榜樣呢?如此等等。登不登也不是我們能預期,然而我就是要讓你聽見,完全
不同於法國主流媒體的聲音。

也有幾位藏獨言詞激烈,行為還算克制的法國人,我們就吵得很凶。反正這種事,信者
恆信,不信者恆不信,互相表達了,也都知道了彼此立場之後,我們也就有默契,不再
吵下去,各自都走開了。

不過也碰到好幾位很客氣的法國人,說話態度很溫和,他們手上雖然拿著黑色抵制奧運\n旗幟,但看得出很想跟我們交流,知道我們的意見。其中有一對法國母女,都去過中國
大陸,都很喜愛那裏。他們所不贊成的是「過硬」的措施,所以出來抗議。平心而論,
他們講的也沒錯,中共的確很多地方要檢討,所以我對他們有理由的批評,是持接受態
度,並說我來自台灣,我能理解他們的疑慮與不滿,以爭取她們的支持。但也同時強調
,現在最好的促進中共民主方法,就是支持奧運,讓那裏更開放,否則他們的期望,與
他們現在採取的態度,完全不符。任何的譴責與過激行為,都沒有用,反而會讓大陸當
局更加強硬,私人公民空間會更限縮,甚至鼓動起極端的中國民族主義,結果適得其反
。其實,他們對這一點也沒太多爭議,看得出他們對於出來抗議的手段,也是有矛盾的
,但他們就偏向出來表示他們的不滿。這是他們的思維模式,也應該尊重。

我在剛開始所站的地方(Eiffel鐵塔附近),並沒看到火炬。那時忙著與法國人激烈爭
論,也沒注意到底火炬過了沒。大約過了快一個半小時吧,人群忽然慢慢散去,聽他們
說,火炬上了巴士,沒有下來跑,是直接乘車開走了。我連忙聽一下mp3上的廣播,果
然如此。大家都預測到會有不少阻攔,但沒想到這麼嚴重(這裡要說明一下,火炬上的
火熄了,才能上巴士;但從雅典點燃的聖火火種,一直完好保存在特殊容器裡面,沒有
熄滅。所以並沒有聖火被迫熄滅之說,準確而言,應是傳遞的火炬,被迫熄火)。我並
沒有跟著火炬走,而是先回家,再出來。旁邊的幾個大陸學生,發狠跟著火炬走下去。
後來,我轉到奧賽美術館附近,quai Voltaire 處,因為按照預先公佈的聖火路線,他
們會走這裡。我到時,還沒什麼人。但不久人就多了起來,這一段沒什麼藏獨,載送聖
火的巴士終於停下,聖火隊也終於下車了。護衛團團圍住聖火隊,最靠近聖火的,就是
大陸派出的護衛隊;緊鄰大陸護衛隊(聽說他們是『大內高手』)的,是穿直排輪陪跑
的法國警察。再外一圈,是法國消防隊員,也穿著運動服陪跑。再外一圈,是警察;再\n外一圈,也就是最外圈,與群眾接觸的,是鎮暴警察CRS。後二者是乘汽車,在最外圍
護衛。警察對留學生的印象相當好,甚至還有警察向留學生揮手致意,大陸同學們也有
人向他們揮手感謝。看電視才知道,警察對付藏獨是很狠的(想來也是,這些人對警察
點火,或拿滅火器噴向火炬,或從群眾中衝出來搶火炬,還有的對警察灑白粉,等等。
警察面對這些傢伙,怎會輕鬆起來。這些都不是我亂說,都是法國電視拍到的畫面)。
大概警察也知道,留學生不是鬧事的人,他們心情也就輕鬆許多。這次鬧事滋擾被捕的
,基本上沒有留學生在內。我看到聖火隊下了車,在緊密保護之下,點燃了火炬,選手
將火炬高舉了起來,開始向前跑,這一段路途的終點是稍遠處的國會大廈 Assemblee
nationale。我終於捕捉到幾張聖火的照片,留下記錄了。我就沒再跟到國會大廈那裡。

回家後,看法國電視新聞報導,果不其然,又是一面倒,藏獨抗爭的報導當然報,而播
出藏獨旗幟、抵制奧運的標語跟旗幟的時間,我粗估,至少佔了這個新聞專題播報時間
的95 %以上,給支持奧運的鏡頭時間,少之又少,根本沒有平衡報導。表面上,各採訪
了雙方陣營的二個人;但整個新聞的背景畫面、旁白、影片,無一不是在支持藏獨,完
全違反了新聞中立原則。其實在台灣,這種經驗也不陌生,法國也是一丘之貉。媒體自
由?新聞自律?都是人民要自己永遠奮鬥的課題啦!
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