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首先感谢Mary925给我话题的支持和理解，您的回帖是我一直期待着的，也是预料之中的，正如我也预期我们社区无法靠区区几段话来促进团结一样！

乐观的角度,我确实感觉到了我们华人可以大大减小目前求职困难的脉动，这也是鼓舞我内心的动力！


客观的角度，我知道我们华人求职时有很大难度，相当部分人士气低落，同时很关键一点，我们中很多人对我们的团结和对我们的求职一样缺乏的信心！

   也同时谢谢提议"成立一个华人就业服务中心"的dontknowme，确实我认为这是个很好的建议！

我是有些想法，但如果没有足够的团结，则只能停留在梦想之中，不过，我是个喜欢做梦的人。所以请大家原谅，我还得继续关于我们团结的话题，并且在适当的时机组织一定的活动。因为在我看来，团结即使不比求职更具优先级别，至少两者应该同步进行。

    请相信我，如果我们团结有方，团结成为习惯，求职成功将是水到渠成的事.团结得来的成功将是我们大家的成功，是我们社区的成功。团结也将使我们拥有一个可以引以为自豪的繁荣强大的华人大家庭!

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我想补充的是: 如有娜位自己能牵头当然最好, 如果不行的话, 我以为可以请大家群策群力, 介绍自己知道的人出来牵头. 如果能请到对这边相关行业/职业方向圈子里面的人士, 交流的效率会高些.

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In order to improve the situation of this JOB & Career related bbs, I would like to encourage those who expect a better community for our CHINESE to share ideas under this thread. As I said, by myself only, I won't be able to help much for job hunting for our COMMUNITY.

So, if you agree with me. Please,

-  tell your successful job search story to encourage other guys: we can  be successful

-  tell your friends who are successful to share their experience

- tell us the difficulties you encountered or are experiencing in your job hunting, maybe other people knows how to deal with it. In this way, we will be able to build a community to help each other

-  share job hunting resources which you think is really helpful in your  job hunting

- if possible, be more specific, to discuss job hunting skills by industry. Such as: what resources are good for IT professionals, what are good for civil engineers, what are good for manufacturers, etc

- if you currently have a professional job, could u pls tell our community in order to get a similar job, what other guys can do, how to overcome common difficulties in job hunting, how to advance in that industry, what about the job market in your industry, etc,

-  regarding this topic, what do u think should be done to make it more  interesting and more effective


The more we make contribution to our CHINESE COMMUNITY,
the more we will benefit from our CHINESE COMMUNITY.

abc458

Oracle montreal is now hiring senior software developer, require c c++, java, knowledge about internet.

dragon99

程序员找工环境如此恶劣？如果语言好+技术牛应该相对容易很多吧？

大家觉得信息安全是不是一个热门呢？
转过去会不会对找工有很大帮助呢？

春夏秋冬

他的电话:732 0973,手机:569 5167----邸先生

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谈团结合作

华人专业工作求职有很多事情要做：
1 华人求职服务机构（类似本地政府资助形式的）
2 华人求职职业中介
3 按不同行业组织互助机构，共同了解本地行业状况，就业市场。了解越多，攻克的可能性越大，能找到工作的人就会越多，就可能找到更合适自己的工作，也可能会更快找到工作。
4 按不同行业了解本地资源，将来整合华人自己的优势互补，逐渐掌握部分资源。
5 各种相关基础建设(语言培训，求学问题，子女汉语文化教育，华文图书馆， 和港澳台合作的机构)
6 成立一些非营利机构（这方面我们应该像西方学习他们的运作方式）

显然这些都是个人力量不易做好的，也难以作大的。有共同兴趣的人可以合作从小做起，逐步积累，终究会有所成，也能得到大家的支持。

为了我们的共同利益，我们必须找到合作共赢的方法，加强信任。

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<tt> Here is an article from last year's ITWorld Canada:

An exercise in backing up your career Back to Basics

By: Peter de Jager

ComputerWorld Canada  (30 Apr 2004)

It's likely that your school days are far behind you. Nevertheless,
I'm handing out some homework for this evening. As you leave the
office today, pretend you've just been downsized, fired, or laid
off. For the rest of the evening, take a look at the employment ads
and match the listed necessary qualifications against those in your
resumé. (You do have an up-to-date resumé, don't you?)

Additionally, if you have any friends or associates who are
currently "between positions," give them a call and see how they're
doing. How better to find out what it's really like out there than
by asking those looking for work? While you're at it, do you know
anyone who might be a good lead for them? That's the real secret to
networking: doing favours for others before you need them for
yourself.

What is unfortunate is that when you consider the state of the IT
industry and the number of people who read this column, for some
readers this won't be a silly exercise — it'll be the real thing. We
lose our supposedly secure positions at the most unexpected times.
The best we can do is to prepare for the unexpected, even if all we
do is take stock of our assets, skills and abilities from time to
time and attempt to correct the obvious deficiencies.

Here's what you will find if you take the time to look at those ads.
Certifications have become the mandatory passport to entry. Without
skills certification you won't make it past the Human Resource
gatekeepers. Regardless of how many hundreds of projects you've
managed successfully, on time, on budget, unless you have a project
management (PM) certificate of some shape and size, you are
automatically tossed into the slush pile.

We could argue the pros and cons of certification, but what would be
the point? The reality is that certification is now necessary when
applying for a new position. I know individuals who have
successfully delivered huge, multi-year, multi-million dollar
projects on time and on budget, who have been searching for work —
unsuccessfully — for more than a year.

While the economy has something to do with this state of affairs,
these folks all state that their primary problem is their lack of a
piece of paper "certifying" they have PM skills; their real world
experience, documented and verifiable through references, is all but
worthless.

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Two solutions to the certification situation immediately spring to
mind. Surrendering to the inevitable seems like an appropriate
response. What certifications are you qualified for, but haven't yet
acquired? Get them now, while you have a job. If you're lucky, your
current company might even pay for the certification process and
whatever upgrading of skills might be necessary.

Admittedly, getting certified is a nuisance. It takes time way from
current projects to prove we're qualified to work on those projects.
Certification isn't something we need to do our job; it's become
something we need to get a job.

The other solution to the certification issue involves a totally
different approach. A certificate of achievement is very much like a
passport, in that it is intended to serve as proof of your identity,
or in this case, ability, to complete strangers. If I already know
you, your work and accomplishments, then certification isn't an
issue. I already trust you and your abilities; certification is a
substitute for first-hand experience and trust.

While networking has almost become an annoying cliché, it is still a
vital tool in a professional's arsenal. It's not only useful when
looking for work; it's the way to solve common problems, keep an eye
on trends and find the perfect person for a new position.

Whether you do your networking on a personal basis by staying in
touch with those you meet at conferences and in the daily course of
business, or take a more focused approach by becoming involved with
professional associations, networking is perhaps the only way to
land a new position if your certification folder isn't filled to the
brim.

We regularly back up our data; spending some time to back up our
career is just another form of contingency planning.</tt>

July3

A good discussion for your reference. Here's the link:

http://www.sinoquebec.com/showthread.php?p=836744#post836744