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Post by 夜航船
为什么有人告诉我，如果是新移民，年纪不太大，最好拿一个本地学历。他告诉我说，刚开始可能没有分别，但是，当5年或者10年后， 那些有本地学历的移民和没有本地学历的移民，差别会很大的。那些没有选择继续读书，而去做普通工人的，会后悔当初的决定的，我的朋友的看法对吗？难道我们 移民都必须走这条路吗？期待有朋友现身说法，用您切身经历告诉我们，本地学历对移民，究竟有多么重要，谢谢！

谁告诉你没有本地学位只能去做普通工人？这个可怕而悲观的结论是怎么得出的？
说话要有逻辑和依据。否则会很滑稽。

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Post by nicolas2005
JOR,说文凭是一张纸没有用,我觉得不是这样!文凭在这里是必需的.我现在工作了有半年了在这家公司,可以说 99%加拿大人都知道我工作的公司,我的朋友很多很羡慕我在这里上班,对于我一个到现在来了一年一个月的移民.那是经过了四次面试,才进来的.所以,我很 努力也很珍惜!我记得最清楚的是,已经通知我能来上班了,才叫我去填一份入职申请表,说总部TORONTO要留底,我觉得特别奇怪那时候!上边文凭一项问 你有什么文凭,什么专业,什么学校,后来还有你什么时候在这个学校毕业,什么时候能拿到什么文凭(这项在中国很少见),因为在中国一般都是毕业才找工 作!!!!我有MASTER DEGREE,但是和我现在的工作关系并不大,工作有半年了,发现身边的同事都有FINANCE的本科,不是CONCORDIA, HEC,就是MCGLL的,这时候我才意识到我也需要有!所以才进CONCORDIA学习, 会计或者金融了.公司鼓励员工读书,还有一份表格代码是517478(记得特别清楚 ,因为每个学期都用),填了之后,FAX给人力资源部,大概5星期就得到返还了. CONCORDIA 一门246.03刀.前天,我的同事问我想不想去K**G会计公司(很出名,在中国也有)上班,她说感觉我特别适合做那边的工作,想推荐给她老公,他老公 那正在招人!!我同事知道我在CONCORDIA读书,但是不知道我读多久了.后来她问我,你还剩下几门课毕业呀?其实我才刚开始读,没好意思直说,我就 说应该还要读两年,她就O了一声,说,恐怕不行,他们想找毕业了有点经验的,或者马上毕业的!:mad: :mad: :mad: 所以说,我觉得文凭是需要有的,最好是本地的,因为你身边的人都是这里毕业的,你说你是清华,北京大学(比CONCORDIA难进一万倍!!!中国人都会知道)那又能怎么样呢?:eek!: :eek!: :eek!: 回到移民的话题上边来,我去年来的时候25岁,我没有想一下就钻进学校读书,说实话也不是很愿意读了,所以是以找工作为主,现在没有办法还要进去读;我觉 得你的年龄和我差不多,也应该象我这样先找工作,如果你比我大的比较多,那更要考虑一下读书问题了(个人想法)! 因为,这边有隐形的性别和年龄歧视! 因为我曾经见过了,两份中国人的简历在我MANAGER那边,其中一个记得特别清楚,我MANAGER问我你看这个人,95年**大学毕业的,你说他多大 呀? 我就说大概33,34岁吧然后我什么也没有说.其实加拿大的简历,年龄,国籍一看就知道了!

用你公司的个案，不能得出文凭是“必需”的这个结论。
论证要有逻辑。
根据我的个人经历和所见所闻，并没有许多公司像你的这家这么看重学历。
有个文凭当然比没有好，但值不值得花个几年功夫去得到它，这个才是关键。
去看一下有多少高学历的在打工，就可以得到推论，学历没并有让所有人都找到好工作。又有许多真材实料的朋友没什么文凭一来就找到很好的工作，就可以得到推论，没学历一样可以/可能找到好工作。

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Post by jor
thanks your guy. i knew that my writting is poorly. but i am not worry about that. i am working with local people everyday. i don't have any comunication problem with them. even we speak jok each other. i still do business with local people. i don't have any comunication problem. english isn't my first lauage, it is a tool. for understand each other.
a lot of chinese go to collage , unversity again. even those people finished nuversity in china before. do you really learn somthing in here unversity?could you please ask youself and give youself a correcttly answer.

below is your written---学历只是一张纸，一个概念。如果北美学历代表你能找到工作，那montreal中国人里在餐馆打工的要少一大片了。
找工作靠资历，靠经验，靠技术或管理水平，靠语言。根本没人去查你的学历，除非你想做医生律师之类的。
i knew some chinese have very job in here. but basicly i knew those people is expert/perfersionly guy in some flied. those people who can find good job in everywhere. even in china.
what is my opinion. please not spend couple years for a wish.or hope. like
i wish i would find good job after i finish universty in here.

let's take about money. for chinese girl. as matter in fact. not any chinese girl just want to get fun and staying with you.you will never have girl f.if you could not provide something.

“please not spend couple years for a wish.or hope. like
i wish i would find good job after i finish universty in here. ”

- That is exactly my opinion. A degree is not so important and does not guarantee a good job.

"let's take about money. for chinese girl. as matter in fact. not any chinese girl just want to get fun and staying with you.you will never have girl f.if you could not provide something."

- My point was very clear: dont judge everything by money. never said money is not important. btw i guess all the people know it is easier to make money in china. so if money is your major concern, you should simply go back and fulfill your Chinese dream. and i sincerely wish you good luck.

also pls don't relate women with money. That's an insult to women and men alike.
a woman that Mastercard cannot buy - priceless. :p
So buy/rent a cheap one, or find a priceless one.
both are good solutions, depending on what you need.

BTW men already got porns, video games, soccers and on top of that, other men. why do they need women any more?;)

夜航船

这位 Christmas111 , 听您的语气，您是一位走另外的捷径的成功人士，您是否能将你成功的宝贵经验讲讲，也供我们这些在黑暗中摸索的朋友借鉴一下？
对您万分的敬仰和感谢

jor

- My point was very clear: dont judge everything by money. never said money is not important. btw i guess all the people know it is easier to make money in china. so if money is your major concern, you should simply go back and fulfill your Chinese dream. and i sincerely wish you good luck.

like your said. i will be bck soon. i don't want to spend couple years in here  to get canada life. after coupe years.i are supposed to find what i get i. i already have it couple years ago. nice and respecting job. yourself business. house .car and oversea travel vacation everyyears.under sunshing seat in beach .drink beer....

about chinese girls .i got some imformation from local people. the answer is not good. why ? you should know.

zhouhui

我看到英文一般是跳过去不读的

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Post by 夜航船
这位 Christmas111 , 听您的语气，您是一位走另外的捷径的成功人士，您是否能将你成功的宝贵经验讲讲，也供我们这些在黑暗中摸索的朋友借鉴一下？
对您万分的敬仰和感谢

诚恳一点的说，如果你我都没本事娶到bill gates的女儿(存在吗？)，还是只有老老实实奋斗一条路吧。:cool: 当然尽量还是少读点书，这样脑细胞少死一点，说不定智商还能维持在正常人的水平，说话也会更有逻辑。
我的观点是实用为上，整天文凭文凭的好像还是80年代中国农民的思路。在北美，就算你的学历比bill gates高，不见得有人当你回事。你能像他一样编个操作系统出来，会找不到工作？

jor

lucky guy !you can buy the super 7.or 649.

suu

放假回来了，马上要考试，我的材料还没准备好，慢慢办巴

现在心里很矛盾，家里让回国，举例若干，收入8K，1W，2W的，说看着还不比我资历高哪去呢

我说我不知道前途在哪里，总有飘着的感觉