shadow

Post by adang23
个人感觉Snowboard 还是适合20岁以下的开始学滑雪的人，滑雪时经常看到他们从后面突超上来，再狠狠的率在前面。每次起来都要鲤鱼翻身好几次，想想如果是自己，估计腰都要扭断了。

PS:本人对Snowboard 一窍不通，欢迎拍砖;)

我上个雪季经常每周都去bromont2次滑雪，但没有经常看到楼上所说的情形。而以我自己的经验来说，也没觉得snowboard只适合20岁以下开始学滑雪的人。我早就过了20，如今snowboard也滑得好好的。

no pain no gain， 无论ski还是snowboard，都是一样的。就象人不是以生下来就会走路，都是经过不断的摔交才会的。

shadow

不知道为什么很多人都对snowboard有偏见，特别是华人。但根据National Ski Areas Association（美国滑雪协会）的统计，Fatalities和Serious Injuries的大多数是skier。不翻译了，自己看吧。

STATISTICS ON SKIING/SNOWBOARDING

  Fatalities - According to the National Ski Areas Association (NSAA): During the past 10 years,  about 37.1 people have died skiing/snowboarding per year on average.  During the 2006/07 season,  22 fatalities occurred out of the 55.1 million skier/snowboarder days reported for the season.   Eighteen of the fatalities were skiers (15 male, 3 female) and 2 of the fatalities were snowboarders,  both male. In two of the cases the equipment used was reported as unknown. The rate of fatality  converts to .40 per million skier/snowboarder visits.

    Serious Injuries - Serious injuries (paraplegics, serious head and other serious injuries) occur  at the rate of about 43.7 per year, according to the NSAA.  In the 2006/07 season, there were 40  serious injuries. Twenty-four of these serious injuries were skiers (20 males, 4 females) and 16  were snowboarders, (14 male, 2 female). The rate of serious injury in 2006/07 was .73 per million  skier/snowboarder visits.

       NOTE: A skier/snowboarder visit represents one person visiting a ski area for all or any part of  a day or night and includes full-day, half-day, night, complimentary, adult, child, season and  any other ticket types that gives one the use of an area's facility.




原文地址http://www.nsaa.org/nsaa/press/facts-ski-snbd-safety.asp

christmas111

我个人没发觉任何华人对snowboard有偏见。老实说如果真的有，好像莫名其妙了一点...不如替换成“现在的年轻人，一代不如一代了”这样更general的。

shadow

Post by christmas111
我个人没发觉任何华人对snowboard有偏见。老实说如果真的有，好像莫名其妙了一点...不如替换成“现在的年轻人，一代不如一代了”这样更general的。

基本上我觉得存在的偏见有snowboard比ski容易受伤啊，ski比snowboard容易学啊，年纪大不适合snowboard啊，boarder比skier喜欢乱来啊等。

至于“现在的年轻人，一代不如一代了”，不知道楼上为什么这么说，不过倒是有点赞同的，不是完全赞同哦

oakwoods

I am too under the impression (possibly a wrong one) that many of snowboarders are young "kids" - maybe that's exactly why there are fewer "elderly" people trying to learn it. But age does not prevent one from doing it. I saw a local man in his 50's trying to learn how to ride it and falling awkwardly quite often, but eventually he made it. One more data point, I am in my 30's, started snowboarding during the last ski season, and found a lot of enjoyment in it. In my personal opinion, it is more enjoyable than skiing. But I do agree with some of the folks out there that the initial learning curve is a little bit steeper than skiiing.

shadow

Post by oakwoods
I am too under the impression (possibly a wrong one) that many of snowboarders are young "kids" - maybe that's exactly why there are fewer "elderly" people trying to learn it. But age does not prevent one from doing it. I saw a local man in his 50's trying to learn how to ride it and falling awkwardly quite often, but eventually he made it. One more data point, I am in my 30's, started snowboarding during the last ski season, and found a lot of enjoyment in it. In my personal opinion, it is more enjoyable than skiing. But I do agree with some of the folks out there that the initial learning curve is a little bit steeper than skiiing.

握个手，做个好朋友

christmas111

Post by shadow
基本上我觉得存在的偏见有snowboard比ski容易受伤啊，ski比snowboard容易学啊，年纪大不适合snowboard啊，boarder比skier喜欢乱来啊等。

至于“现在的年轻人，一代不如一代了”，不知道楼上为什么这么说，不过倒是有点赞同的，不是完全赞同哦

boarder比skier喜欢乱来啊等=现在的年轻人，一代不如一代了

shadow

Post by christmas111
boarder比skier喜欢乱来啊等=现在的年轻人，一代不如一代了

唉，这是另外一个误区啦。boarder在别人眼中的乱来，其实是ski和snowboard天生的不同造成的。snowboard只有一块板，但因为是横着站，重心平衡的调整有前后中间、toe、heel（6点），再加上身体的起伏。会在这些点之间做到转换重心平衡，才能算会滑。而能做到切换自如，才能算滑好了。而所谓的乱来，很多时候人家是在练习。其实这也是很多这边华人boarder的误区。周六和我们东岸最厉害的华人boarder，即将成为4级教练的pan滑了几次。他的水平毋庸置疑，但他并不是滑花式的，而且那天用的是专门carving用的long board。但在我要求下，他轻而易举地做了好几个trick。这就是因为他对重心平衡已经熟悉得不行了。真正滑好了snowboard，无论freestyle还是freeride，不是能在黑道上飞驰而下那么简单的。

snowpro_cn

Post by shadow
唉，这是另外一个误区啦。boarder在别人眼中的乱来，其实是ski和snowboard天生的不同造成的。snowboard只有一块板，但因为是横着站，重心平衡的调整有前后中间、toe、heel（6点），再加上身体的起伏。会在这些点之间做到转换重心平衡，才能算会滑。而能做到切换自如，才能算滑好了。而所谓的乱来，很多时候人家是在练习。其实这也是很多这边华人boarder的误区。周六和我们东岸最厉害的华人boarder，即将成为4级教练的pan滑了几次。他的水平毋庸置疑，但他并不是滑花式的，而且那天用的是专门carving用的long board。但在我要求下，他轻而易举地做了好几个trick。这就是因为他对重心平衡已经熟悉得不行了。真正滑好了snowboard，无论freestyle还是freeride，不是能在黑道上飞驰而下那么简单的。

那个四级的教练已经不属于我们人类这一区了！
他的技术和换刃已经到达仙人的境界。

ski和snowboard 哪个比较好学？ ski 对10岁的小孩子比较容易，1。他们不需要掌握中心问题。2。他们的复制能力很强，学的很快，很标准。3。速度快，小孩子喜欢速度快 对于成人来说，你们就没有他们的优势了。 snowboard 对10岁的小孩来说是非常难的，1。他们要注意重心问题。2。 他们的力量不够。3。他们的自信心和耐力没有大人的好。相对而言，成人就比较有优势！除非，你耳水不平衡～～
在雪场，真正乱来的不是skier 也不是 snowboarder 。 是那些自以为是，老是在那里追求速度而不顾忌别人安全的人。

lovelysummer

Post by shadow
基本上我觉得存在的偏见有snowboard比ski容易受伤啊，ski比snowboard容易学啊，年纪大不适合snowboard啊，boarder比skier喜欢乱来啊等。

我觉得玩SB的人一般都会装备上头盔等重要护具,保护好头部和PP之后,也就没多少受伤的机会了; 而玩 SKI的初学者带护具的不多,虽然SKI容易学,但一旦双板交叉而摔倒的话,扭伤脚踝或膝盖的可能性大增,(而且这种情况下就算你有头盔等护具也没用),所以我个人觉得玩SKI受伤的可能性反倒大些.

这些年在雪场玩, 我见到的受伤的朋友好像都是玩SKI的.

whatever,安全还是最重要的,摔伤一次,也许整个雪季就全玩完了:wink: