Post by newcamember
The only problem is age.
Post by diorlancome
To newcamember
My wife also wants to study accounting, probably a bachelor program. She has got a master of economic communication in France and is aged of 25 years. The only problem which we are worried about is the perspective of CA in five years. You know, four or five years is a heavy investment. Is it proportional to what we will get?
What does it will look like, the perspective of this career?
There are already a large number of accountants in Quebec incluing other designations. The competition will be fierce and does this will affect the future CA?
What's about the average age of CA in Quebec?
if possible, please answer our questions. thank you so much.
Post by diorlancome
there are already 68000 CAs in Canada, if you don't count other similar professionals, CGA and CMA. All four universities in Montreal have the accounting programs. UQAM admits several hundreds of students each year: the situation is not very plausible.
like lz, we really want to hear some opinions of insiders or people who have already engaged in this path.
Post by newcamember
To aigle1234,
Age is a obstacle for you to find CA trainee position in approved CA firms. Possibly, my opinion is wrong. Good luck!
Post by diorlancome
thank you all for this information.
it seems that access to every professional body in Quebec is difficult.
to Ilnn, newcamember,muler...
i still have several questions to ask.
1, many people take the accounting program of one year in Mcgill (continuing education). but after have finished this program, how many courses do they need to complete before taking the professional program of one year? if they have no accounting background.
2, what do you think between taking a bachelor and a one-year short program of mcgill? what are their advantages and disadvantages?
3, if i want to stay in Montreal after my studies, which do you think better between taking an accounting program in english or an equivalent program in french? tell me which language do the professionals use more often in this field in montreal?
4, the professional program of one year has a quota and is selective with consideration of excellence of academic records or bachelor holders can be admitted into this program automatically?
if possible, please answer us. thank u so much.
Post by diorlancome
also another question to ask newcamember,
what do u think a master of finance? since u work as accountant, i guess u perhaps know sth. about this, for they are related?
your answer will be of importance for us. thanks.
Post by newcamember
Finance is also related to accounting but salary is higher than accounting. My classmate (CFA plus CMA) works in TD Toronto. The salary is around 100K.
Post by newcamember
To diorlancome
1, No difference in job opportunity for the two programs. The diplona in McGIll plus CA program is the shortest way for the CA designation but still need 5 years. My major was computer (ffice:smarttags" /><?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com<ST1:place w:st="on">China</ST1:place></st1:country-region>). When I made decision to pursue CA I thought 3 year will be ok but I took 5 years ( I passed UFE at the first try). Any designation need 5-6 year's hard working.ffice
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Post by Alan2u
我鼓励你一下。 年龄不是问题。双语才是大问题!我一同事的老婆,大约44左右,医学管理本科才毕业,今年找到一份医院的管理工作,时薪28元。这人从来没有在医院工作过,做过收银,做过房地产,但她在这里长大的,印度人。
Post by llnn
鉴于没有CA愿意回答问题,我就讲讲我的认识
ca, cga, cma 是加拿大的会计注册师,由于以前有众多的规定和协会交叉管理,所以在历年的整合中,
官方正式定了3个承认的注册证, 这3个从逻辑上是同等的,但在实际应用中却差的很远,各自有所侧重,占领不同的方面.一言概之,ca 有签上市公司报表的权利,所以权威大,收入高.cma偏成本核算和管理,
有些公司的老总都挂cma的头衔,所以有假借头衔之嫌.cga是真正的会计,g就是general, 有些省的cga也开始签上市公司年报了.总之这些协会经常吵架,谁也不买谁的帐,这也就难怪会计法每年修改增加,没完没了.
我个人的见解是中国人最好学cga,因为语言问题我们永远也做不了大公司的第一会计主管,所以放弃ca吧,甚至连中层的管理人员也做不了,因为你的语言吵不了架,也管不了人,所以也放弃cma吧.
还有考这些证投入很大,就象中国的考证一样, 考证的辅导班不便宜,还有每年的会费.拖的时间很长,我是中国会计的本科,就这样我还的修至少25门必修课(HEC),参加2门协会考试,实习1-2年,最后才可拿证.所以这是上贼船.
最后告诉大家一个乐观的消息,会计是好找工作,(我才修了9门课,已经找到工作了),training 工资2500$左右, 大学30000$以上,
有证(titre)40000以上.
还有一难,会计80%的岗位都要求双语,你做好准备了吗?
抱歉那么多娃娃头,我儿子干的,否则我可能就写不完这些话了
Post by muller
1.CA不好考。不知道和中国的CPA比起来那个难。其实CA的通过率还挺高的,好像在70%以上(national)。
2。在魁省考CA, 必须读一个CA program才有资格参加考试, 30个学分,一般两年读完。这个program是在本科或同等学历之后才能申请的。
3。你可以读本科或是继续教育的diploma of accounting. 学校的网站上什么都有。
要成为CA的话,工作一定没有问题。因为只是通过考试还不能成为CA, 只有满足工作经验的要求后才能成为CA, 所以是先有工作,然后才能成为CA.
Post by luftballon
说个不一样的看法.跟风走有的时候是适应潮流,有的时候就是盲从,比如一窝风得移民,一窝风得海待,一窝风得来QUEBEC,一窝风得学这学那...
首先要明白自己想要什么样的生活,然后是要具备什么样的能力,再是根据自身条件(如经历,毅力,吃苦能力...)决定做什么,最后还要看所选择的地方是不是真得值得留下来做.没有一样专业,一样工作或一种生活是高于或低于其他人的.也不能简单得拿现在式看将来式.行行出状元,出人才.做好了决定就要坚持不渝,别人没达到的不一定你就达不到,别人达到的你将来若没达到,但为此奋斗了,也不枉亏这一生.
Post by gzlxy
Your wife is 25 years. Why don't you have a baby? Why don't you open your own business?
In my opinion, Studying for a CA/CPA is just a waste of time, because if you want to be a financial director, you should work as a accounting firstly, you should have at lease 5-10 years work experence, you should have the communication ability, you should have the good relationship with the CEO.
Try and get your own business even it is small at first.
Post by gzlxy
If you want to find a job, I think maybe you should find a job in the field similar to your major or work background. I think maybe you souldn't just look at the job opportunities.
My work experience tells me that if you don't enter a industry, you can not know it in details. In fact, you just listen to some peope talk about the accounting, you probably don't konw the details in accounting industry. Maybe you will consider your interesting(technical , studying, or sales), your advantages, then you will consider what to do.
Post by Playwithme;2284989
I am a CA. I can say that CA is much more rewarded than CGA/CMA/CPA. 我现在管理的 fianncial analyst 都有 CMA or CGA. 如果你相信自己的潜力,应该去考CA
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