[电脑] 关于买笔记本电脑的讨论

C&C · 发表于 2002-4-19 23:42

建议想笔记本这类东西，还是买日本货较好，不要买北美的，比较粗大笨重，设计不够精巧，虽然感情上比较抵制日货，但事实就是事实，没办法。 frown

zhang1300322614 · 发表于 2002-4-20 00:28

christmas111:
呵呵，我朋友看到过打着西门子牌子的笔记本电脑。好像西门子的笔记本都是FUJITSU OEM的。

呵呵...现在你如果想在西门子的网站上找他的笔记本, 西门子会指向指到"富士通"...

stupidme · 发表于 2002-4-21 00:10

zhang13003226148:
[quote]stupidme:
.....so if i had a choice, i would choose ibm or apple.

Apple??? it's a Mac machine, not PC. Most of the PC software cannot work on Mac. Are you really interested in this brand?[/quote]i never tried apple, but my former roommate had one and there was no problem at all, just think of it is the only one competing with pc now with so many disadvantages such as what u said the software compatibility, u should know apple is not just a follwer like japdog lar, like the one u r selling, never heard of it. and what's more, apple's appearance is also much more attractive than japdog's brand. the dell i am using, the appearance is bad but it is cheaper, and it came with a higher configuration than any other brand at that time. sorry, i didn't say which product u should go, it is just my opinion, actually i don't think there is huge difference among the machines, just we chinese shouldn't put our money to japdog, i guess. even though we paid more for what we get, i think still worth it.

zhang1300322614 · 发表于 2002-4-21 00:50

stupidmei never tried apple, but my former roommate had one and there was no problem at all, just think of it is the only one competing with pc now with so many disadvantages such as what u said the software compatibility, u should know apple is not just a follwer like japdog lar, like the one u r selling, never heard of it. and what's more, apple's appearance is also much more attractive than japdog's brand. the dell i am using, the appearance is bad but it is cheaper, and it came with a higher configuration than any other brand at that time. sorry, i didn't say which product u should go, it is just my opinion, actually i don't think there is huge difference among the machines, just we chinese shouldn't put our money to japdog, i guess. even though we paid more for what we get, i think still worth it.[/QB]

I can hardly agree with you, cos depend on certain situation, it doesn't matter which brand  it is, or, where ti comes from.
   Generally speaking, we, Chinese all do nto like Japanese and their products. But a commodity is only a commodity, and what you are using now is the machine itself. ( I bet your laptop still has some parts from Japan brand!)
   Today's economy is globalized. So, please do not to say that somebody's putting money into JP bags or U.S. bags, it is the truth that we all share the profit. The manufacturer gain the profit from their product, doesn't matter which brand it is and from a certain country, since the JP machines were also produced in U.S. and the U.S. machines are also using J.P. parts, harddisk, LCD and so on; the vendor makes money from their mechandising; and we make the use of the machine, equivalent to some kind of profit!
   So, it comes that the brand, itself, represent the reputation, the technology and style and so on. You do not have to admit whether or not you have ever heard FUJITSU or not. But Fujitsu still represent its competitive high technology standard in laptop manufacturing industry. With the cooperation with Siemens, it do provide high-end machines for today's computer industry.
   I am just trying to sell my newly bought machine for personal purpose... But if you are still struggling on where the machine's from (brand, whatever), Please just take time to check your machine, how many parts are using on it?!

zhang1300322614 · 发表于 2002-4-21 00:56

stupidmei never tried apple, but my former roommate had one and there was no problem at all, just think of it is the only one competing with pc now with so many disadvantages such as what u said the software compatibility, u should know apple is not just a follwer like japdog lar, like the one u r selling, never heard of it. and what's more, apple's appearance is also much more attractive than japdog's brand. the dell i am using, the appearance is bad but it is cheaper, and it came with a higher configuration than any other brand at that time. sorry, i didn't say which product u should go, it is just my opinion, actually i don't think there is huge difference among the machines, just we chinese shouldn't put our money to japdog, i guess. even though we paid more for what we get, i think still worth it.[/QB]

I can hardly agree with you, cos depend on certain situation, it doesn't matter which brand  it is, or, where it comes from.

   Generally speaking, we, Chinese all do not like Japanese. But a commodity is only a commodity, and what you are using now is the machine itself. ( I bet your laptop still has some parts from Japan brand!)

   Today's economy is globalized economy. So, please do not say that somebody's putting money into JP bags or U.S. bags. It is the truth that we all share the profit. The manufacturer gain the profit from their product, doesn't matter which brand it is and from a certain country, since the JP machines were also produced in U.S. and the U.S. machines are also using J.P. parts, harddisk, LCD and so on; the vendor makes money from their mechandising; and we make the use of the machine, equivalent to some kind of profit!

   So, it comes that the brand, itself, represent the reputation, the technology and style and so on.

   You do not have to admit whether or not you have ever heard FUJITSU. But Fujitsu do hasv its competitive high technology standard in laptop manufacturing industry. With the cooperation with Siemens, it do provide high-end machines for today's computer industry.

   I am just trying to sell my newly bought machine for personal purpose...

   But if you are still struggling on where the machine's from (brand, whatever), Please just take time to check your machine, how many parts are using on it from JP Brand?!

zhang1300322614 · 发表于 2002-4-21 01:01

stupidme:
o, i don't think american is bad, they just like a company competing globally with others.but japdog and russian, they r not human being. anyway, just my opinion, what's good in toshiba? it is the 8th manufacturer in pc industry, japdog only know following usa, like they followed chinese b4, so i guess u won't buy a jap product, right? if u wanna show ur character.

I am glad to see that you are also the professional in PC industry, as you know that Toshiba ranks 8th... So, would you mind showing us the rest ones before Toshiba?

BTW, I do appreciate your strong character!

stupidme · 发表于 2002-4-21 11:21

sorry, i am not a profeesional in computer, but based on a statistics from international data corp., the leading pc vendors in 1999 r:
compaq: 15732000
dell: 11883000
ibm: 9287000
hp: 7577000
nec: 5989000
gateway: 4685000
others: 57573000
and sorry that toshiba thing was rank 7th not 8th i mentioned. and ur fijisu was not in the list, but it was 3rd in euro market after its alliance with simems.
and u r right that the market is globalized, now it is the money that counts, but i think that's also my point, when u bought fuji, the whole markup went to its pocket, u contributed to the increasemenrt of its market share, and u helped to improve its brand awareness. so why help japdog to grow its business since u don't like japan either? i agree that the machine is combined by components from all kinds of manufacturers, and it is hard to find an electronic equitment purely without a japdog's technology, in fact the dvd i have is from nec, but think of it in this way, i paid only for this part compared to the whole machine. all other profits didn't go to japdog. i guess in this way i minimize its capital growth and it is the way to defeat them, have u heard that once the whole jew nation resisted a german company and finally that firm went bankruptcy?
i also agree with u that not only japdog invaded china, but i never heard a troop trained its soldiers by killing alive human, and sheared off women's breast, etc, i think u must know what kind of animal they r, right?
and i don't deem it a personal attack but rather a debate. and hopefully u can sell off ur machine asap.

zhang1300322614 · 发表于 2002-4-22 15:02

再试一试, 看看能不能转让我的笔记本... 有懂货的, 感兴趣的请进来啊...

<<< FIJITSU 笔记本 LIFEBOOK C6631 >>>
Brand NEW Machine, only used 2 months
<<< Only Asking for CAD2185 !!! >>>
(This model now for sale in Montreal is at around CAD2150 before TAX, CAD2470 after tax!!!)
Detailed information, pls check: http://www.fujitsu.ca/products/notebooks/cseries/c6631_6611.html

MOBILE P III 1G; 14.1” TFT DISPLAY 1024 x 768; 30G HARDDISK; 128M PC100; DVD 8X ROM; FLOOPY; BUILD-IN 56K MODEM + 10/100 NETWORK CARD; REMOVABLE 9-CELL LITHIUM ION BATTERY (4500MAH); 4 USB PORT…

Also come with full package of Software: Windows 98 recovery disk, Microsoft Works, … Invoice and nearly 1 year guarantee (I bought it on 2002/2/13)

Remark:
1. I installed dual system: (1) Windows 2000 English version; (2) Windows 98 Chinese version
2. If you'd like the original system (Windows 98 English version), I'll be very happy to recover it for you. And also help you to install all kinds of the software you need (if I have~~~)

Interested party, please call: 514 – 276 7145, or email: patriczw@netease.com

benson · 发表于 2002-5-14 15:16

C&C:
建议想笔记本这类东西，还是买日本货较好，不要买北美的，比较粗大笨重，设计不够精巧，虽然感情上比较抵制日货，但事实就是事实，没办法。

你见过IBM X SERIALS 吗？你见过 IBM TRANSNOTE 吗？如果你见过这些东东的话，你立刻会改变你的想法的！

christmas111 · 发表于 2002-5-14 20:58

切，x系列12.1的屏，重1.6公斤，有什么了不起？而且丑。
你见过东芝的portege 2000吗？同样12.1，重1.19公斤，全球最薄。
在超轻薄这方面美国货确实差远了，没得比的。