eversun

yep. in 98 or 99 I read something about cursoe, just know 4 guys created the company and one of them is Linus Torvalds, didn't rem others. in 2k I read a piece of news about cursoe because they found some bugs of it. now its ok. but i doubt its processing-power.

pathfinder

in fact, DELL TOSHIBA ASUS ACER WINBOOK COMPAQ all have products of desktop-CPU before Intel warned them. If they can controlled the CPU temperature in an acceptable range, the CPU performance of desktop is much better than laptop. If evaluate all the same-speed-laptops, Toshiba got the best performance.

  

the problem is here, desktop cpu create much more heat than mobil cpu do. to decrease desktop cpu's temperature producer has to use big fan and thus more electricity, therefore less battery lasting time. and also it will cause more noises. if you seek for high performance of course you should buy desktop. but if use laptop, i believe what you are pursueing is its mobility. and battery capacity or efficiency is a very important factor to measure a laptop. no one willing to use a laptop whose battery only can last half an hour and no one willing to bring a heavey machine because of its big battery in his long boring business trip. thanks cpu producers, they give us a distinguishing product line named mobil-cpu, cpu just fit for laptop, which has higher performance in above-mentioned area than desktop cpu.
so what my point is, toshiba is cheating customers under the condition that it for sure has known the difference of these two cpus.

eversun

I have worked as a middleman of laptops selling and technique supporting for 2 years in China when I was in the university. Sure I know the hardware and technique background of laptops. What CPU does the laptop manufacturer use is not important, its the business of Intel. We should know what we need, not follow what Intel said, because Intel needs it to make a living.

The only good feature of Intel Mobile Module CPU is low-power-cost, Intel said the technics of Mobile Modle is quite different to desktop-cpu, do u really beleive that? it just cut some sub-processing units to reduce the power cost. That's why mobile cpu can get the same performance as desktop's. Reading articles from some PC websites is just knowing something said by capitalists, not the true thing we need.

My original opinion is to say the best performance laptop is Toshiba, u can ask every technician in any laptop companies, even the employee of IBM. this info is to the ppl who wanna buy a laptop. We can not deside things just according to the history. Toshiba has produced the best desktop-cpu-used laptop(even the battery-using-time is almost same to some mobil-cpu-used laptop), so Intel spread some info to keep its the mobil-cpu market. That time Toshiba told the world why ppl really need.

just suggestion.

eversun

I have abridged something in the article below, but didn't do it clearly, so u can find some strange words there.

pathfinder

not bad. i have to admit eversun is a wise man although our opinion has a little difference.
i hope i can meet more such man in this bbs unlike now.

eversun

惭愧。原来的意思只是想说在用台式机CPU的笔记本厂商里Toshiba还不是最糟的，毕竟性能比较高。不过现在在Intel的压力下可能不会再有了吧。大家的讨论有助于其他朋友参考。其实我自己用的是IBM T22 4EH。

pathfinder

actually, toshiba maybe not bad, at least in the eyes of intel because as i know most of staff in intel china around 1996 equipped with toshiba satlite series.

echodonny

我打算12月买手提电脑,但不知道什么牌子好,我的好多同学都是用的TOSHIBA的,他们有些说好,有些说不好!我想买在$1500-2000之内的电脑!大家给点建议,DELL的怎么样?!!

chrysler

Toshiba的笔记本曾经一直是市场上的老大。Dell的笔记本的键盘出过很多问题，现在有一个集体诉讼就是针对他们的键盘的，光我自己见过的键盘有问题的Dell就有两台。IBM的口碑不错。

1355

当然是IBM，专业，稳定。