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这就是个骗局，信息引自英文论坛
Post by yading;3124010
这个bid确实是合法的，但是他的性质和赌博非常接近，并不是一般意义上的discount. 注册时使用误导的技巧在你不知情的情况下charge信用卡，为帐户充值。bid 剩的钱不能退，只能同时bid一件东西等等。
如果要玩bid,不要认为是在购物，实际是在赌博，这也是它迷惑人的地方。赌博害人，但是放在桌面上，赌徒自己知道。bid害人，受害人通常不知道，上当后还以为自己运气不好。
http://theroughcutslate.com/2012 ... ga-the-ziinga-scam/
THE LAW “DOES NOT APPLY TO ZIINGA” – The Ziinga ScamTHE LAW “DOES NOT APPLY TO ZIINGA” – The Ziinga Scam
BY MATT AUNGER – MAY 11, 2012
POSTED IN: NEWS, STUFF
****SIGN THE PETITION- Help stop this company scamming innocent people: http://www.thepetitionsite.com/856/644/784/stop-ziinga-scams/ ****
We’ve all been tempted by incredible deals and savings that can be found from online shopping. With the success of eBay, Amazon, Play to name but a few online retailers that are delivering great value to their valuable online customer base.
But there are those deals that often seem too good to be true, the penny auctions, boasting “95% Savings”, where you can purchase the latest techno-gadgetry at budget prices! Or can you?
Here is a quick run down of how it supposed to work with these sites:
Step 1, you sign up and purchase bids;
Step 2, you find the product you want and place your bid- Note: each bid increases the product price by 1 penny (hence ‘penny auction’) and in most cases adds a set amount of time to the auction (normally 15 seconds to 1 minute);
Step 3, the timer on the auction runs down to zero
Step 4, you pay for your item, it is shipped and you are one happy bunny with your incredible 95% saving!
Recall the old phrase “if it seems too good to be true, it probably is”, although there are some penny auction sites that are offering this legitimately cheap deal on various products, there are others who are quite simply trying to deceive consumers from the start. One such enterprise is a “penny auction” site called Ziinga.com.
Ziinga, owned by Flamingo Intervest – who recently became a subsidiary of Nio Security Inc. (Now Nio Inc.) – appear at first glance as a legitimate penny auction site much like Madbid, Bidvid, Sneekit and others (though with Sneekit you purchase Sneeks, not bids!).
Look at the site. Everything seems legitimate, they are powered by various companies and backed by others.
The how to section apparently tells you everything you need to know about the company, and the sign up section they even tell you they are the “#1″ “Top rated penny auction site”.
Excellent news right? You’ve found the gold mine, so let’s get to it!
You go through an easy sign up section followed by what appears to be a bidding section on lower end products. The first thought might be “hey it’s a free “bid” so they aren’t going to give me that i-thingy that’s going on the front page!”. But if you stop for a moment and look around at all the highest bidders you will notice one particular indication that the legitimacy must be questioned, one bidder holds the leading bid on all the products…well…for a limited time! Well heck, maybe he’s just trying his luck on everything right?
Before you continue, wait for the timer to run down to zero on these “promotional auctions”, you will notice one thing…unless you bid, they wont! they will reach 1 second, halt there for a few moments and then all of a sudden they are boosted back up to 1 minute, or 1 minute 50 seconds with a new name as the lead bidder. Remember, it’s in the terms and conditions that unless the timer reaches zero, you don’t win!
Hint…it wont reach zero! Therefore this is no auction.
Simply this is an “offers” page made to look like one of these penny auctions.
Why? Because you’re guaranteed to win something! Then you’ll be so happy you’ll purchase bids to get other products with the “I’ve already won once, I can do it again!” mindset.
So carry on and place your bid, but wait on the next page! Click through the Congratulations section! (don’t worry, I wont lead you into the trap! We’ll stop before we get there!).
Now we’ve all seen this page before, it’s a standard payment page that you would see on any e-commerce site.
Normally at this point you would simply put in your details, there can’t be anything too risky in the Terms and Conditions right? There was nothing on that front page about any membership fee, or subscription charges!
If you stop for a moment and scroll down the page (presumably designed so that people who just want to get that amazing deal on a new phone or tablet will just click through without hesitation!) you will notice a little asterisk with the following:
“Included with this payment is a 7-day free Platinum membership. Once the free days expire, normal monthly fee of £ 59.99 applies. The membership is only binding for 3 months.”
This is where you should stop, but some don’t. This appears as if it is a standard payment gateway, so why wouldn’t you just make the payment?
Those who are aware of “pay monthly service” regulations might even have think the seven day free trial included with your purchase is the mandatory “seven working days beginning with the day after the day on which the consumer receives the goods” cooling off period set out in The Consumer Protection (Distance Selling) Regulations 2000. It’s not!
When asked why they do not adhere to The Consumer Protection (Distance Selling) Regulations 2000 our source at Ziinga stated that the law “does not apply to Ziinga”.
“Why?” you might think. Terms in the regulations that state purchases from auctions are exempt, but then we have already established this isn’t a purchase from an auction. This purchase has been through a promotional gift gateway deceivingly designed to look as if it is a standard penny auction.
Their intention was to deceive, therefore they are in the business of fraud.
I urge all persons who may be willing to trial this website to instead look around for a legitimate one. You cannot sign up and use the website for free, and Ziinga do not respect your right as a consumer to cancel your agreement with them, unless you want to pay their £28 cancellation fee.
Nowhere else on the website, bar one line in the terms and conditions state anything about the monthly membership, so their intention is clearly to hide this fact from a potential customer.
The customer service team (powered by Liveperson) will not help you, they will not give you any leeway, they will not respect your consumer rights. Liveperson declined to comment on these allegations.
By not offering sufficient information, and clearly advertising their membership fees they can be considered fraudsters by omission, law breakers by not following distance selling regulations, and a confidence company designed to deceive and make a quick penny at your expense.
If you have been scammed by Ziinga there are a number of ways to stop them, these are detailed here.
Before you do anything else, it is always worth contacting Ziinga directly. Although they will not help, your first step in getting out of any contract is to advise the organisation you are in contract with that you wish to “exercise your right to cancel under The Consumer Protection (Distance Selling) Regulations 2000″. It is also worth indicating that you were not made aware that these regulations were not applicable to Ziinga anywhere in the site, and that in accordance with these laws you cannot be held accountable for the lack of information provided.
If you get into any trouble, try mentioning the ASA (who have recently (29th February 2012) served Ziinga for misleading email promotions)
The next step is to delete any personal information they have off your account page. Go through the Liveperson chat and demand they remove all your payment details, though it probably wont get you anywhere, it’s always worth a shot!
Contact your bank and request a chargeback on the payments going to Ziinga of Flamingo Intervest, as they will not be sending you your product so don’t worry too much about it. (Unfortunately the website payment gateway is powered by Thawte, who although a legitimate company “verified by visa”, are being used in a illegitimate way. Therefore your bank may require you to fill out various forms in order to take full responsibility. No comment could be obtained from Thawte.)
The following step comes with a warning:
***As Ziinga are set up through a legitimate payment gateway, and the confidence scam is one of withholding information. If you do the following they may try to send debt collectors after you.
However they have signed you up to a credit agreement running any credit checks, and are therefore operating outside of FSA regulations. They don’t really have a leg to stand on, but it is my moral obligation to ensure you are aware of all possible outcomes! I don’t want a load of people coming to me saying “they’re taking this that and the other and it’s your fault”. This is just advice based on my experience***
The reason I gave you this warning is because the next step is to cancel your card, either through the lost, stolen or broken department at you bank.
Your bank should be willing to help you. Their job is to look after your money, so if they are not willing to do this, attempt to close the account so that you can open a new one elsewhere. – This is an extreme measure, but it might prompt them to be more helpful.
If anyone has any further advice, additional scam websites or simply wants to share their experience of being conned use the comment section.
****SIGN THE PETITION: http://www.thepetitionsite.com/856/644/784/stop-ziinga-scams/ ****
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***UPDATE***
Ziinga logo has been removed in order to comply with “copyright” regulations (yes…we observe the law!).
Below is the answer to a couple of questions posed to Brian Mertz of Nio. Inc.
1. New members are signed up to a 3 month binding contract and yet no eligibility check is undertaken to ensure customers are able to afford these payments, moreover customers are not given a cooling off period in accordance with distance selling regulations.
“Unfortunately we do not have the means to check if the user can afford the membership but since the membership was accepted by the user we can only assume that the user can afford the membership, otherwise the user can always cancel the membership by paying the cancellation fee. We don’t have a cooling off period, since the user is buying a online service – not a distant product. We also expect that people with a credit card can take care of them self and are more than 18 years old.”
2. Why is there no other information, save for a few lines in the terms and conditions, that clearly advertise a paid subscription?
“That is not correct. The subscription terms and prices are mentioned on:
- The payment page (where you enter your credit card details)
- The email receipt we send to the customer for confirmation after the purchase
- Under “your account” at the login area
- And in our terms & conditions that you accept when making a purchase”
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8 Comments
Dashiell
Posted May 15, 2012 at 2:51 PM
I signed up for this on 19 april, paid 35 pounds for some bids, and the confirmation email alerted me to the fact that I had just subscribed for 59.99 per month for three months. I googled them and worked out it was a scam. I promptly called the bank and cancelled my card. I have not heard anything else from zinga until today (15 May), which is a letter which appears to be from intrum justitia to “secure immediate settlement of the outstanding amount of GBP 179.97″ and details of how to pay.
Where do I stand on this? I plan on ignoring it.
Matt Aunger
Posted May 16, 2012 at 1:03 AM
The best thing to do initially is contact Ziinga directly. If you haven’t used the service since the 19th April, they won’t be able to say that you’re being billed for a service you have used (unless you’ve used it! of course!).
Don’t contact Intrum Justitia yet, as from what I understand about debt collectors, any acknowledgement of the debt would result in action from them.
Hold out on paying, It’s not going to harm your credit history as they haven,t conducted any credit checks.
My advice would be to hound Ziinga until they give in and wipe the debt.
If you want I can send you Brian Mertz email address, and you could contact him directly. He is the CEO of Nio Inc. (the company responsible for Ziinga) and the person most likely to be able to help you, all the customer service reps will simply tell you “it’s policy” and end the conversation.
Hope you get this sorted soon.
Matt
Emma
Posted May 17, 2012 at 7:53 PM
Was interesting to read your article above & I have signed the petition!! I have been well & truly scammed by these people & at first felt like it was my own stupid fault but I am quickly realising that I am one of very many people who have been ripped off by this company ….. I thought Iwas the winning bidder for a camera & paid for the item straight away ….. A few days later I checked the status of the the shipping as the had taken the payment but they required me to verify my identity before they could ship it strange considering they could take payment without verifying anything!!! I was then charged 59.99 for my membership??!! A membership that I didn’t realise I had signed up for nor did I want!! Over a month ago I submitted a request to cancel this membership & was given a cancellation date I also spoke to someone on the live chat & told them I was not aware of this membership fee & I had cancelled it & told them not to take anymore money from my account & as i have found out today this was taken as my refusal to pay the membership fee & they did not process my request to cancel!! So again this month I have been charged 59.99 so I got on the live chat again to ask why they are still doing this when I had cancelled the membership & was sent a cancellation email & immediately they had taken another 28.00 from my account (the cancellation fee) I phoned them to demand my money back for the membership & complained about the fact that they cannot ship an item that I have paid for without verifying my ID but can take over £150 from my bank account …… I shouted at the woman over the phone & am ashamed to say I swore at her too!! But she assured me that no more money will be taken from my account & I also asked her to remove all of my details from their systems & she advised me to reply to the cancellation email & ask them to do it & she also tried to tell me that I didn’t try to cancel my membership over a month ago …… I’m just so gutted by this whole thing I have cried all day & just don’t know if there is any way I can get some of my money back …… Do you have any advice for me at all??
Matt Aunger
Posted May 17, 2012 at 8:23 PM
Hi Emma, I have sent you an email. Sorry I can’t be of much help, but hound them until you get a refund.
Max
Posted May 20, 2012 at 10:16 AM
Hello,
I eventually gave in and Paid the £28 but I put up a big fight. The representatives don’t seem to care at all.
PLEASE
PEOPLE
DONT
USE
ZIINGA
Gerry O'Kane
Posted May 30, 2012 at 5:51 PM
Yep it is a familiar story. I did what Matt said in the article (before I read it) and cancelled within 10 minutes of reading the ternms and conditions being emailed back to me. I still fail to see why they are not ruled by a cooling off period, they operate in UK with a Union flag logo and charge in sterling. They also do not comply with providing a UK address (my understanding). I did cancel my card, they waited till the last day of the appeal to reapply the £59.99 charge. Prior to this I was snet a letter from their fraud team in Malta saying if I didn’t pay up – over £150 – the debt collectors were coming and I would be sued for fraud.
I’d appreciate any advice on handling debt collectors and on handloing court actions.
A momentary lapse in a lifetime of cynicism.
Matt Aunger
Posted May 30, 2012 at 6:18 PM
Hi Gerry,
I’m sorry to hear you’ve had a problem with Ziinga too! I cannot fathom why they think they can get away with underhand conning tactics such as these!
When I asked the CEO he gave me a lot of run excuses, saying things like they don’t do credit checks because they “don’t have the facilities”, and don’t offer a cooling off period because they don’t think they are a distance selling service!
I’m not entirely sure what to suggest, though to be honest I think any court that was shown the case would laugh it out of the room!
If you do have any gripes about the company, here is the CEO of Nio inc. (Brian Mertz) email address! I probably shouldn’t give this out, but let’s be honest…they shouldn’t be conning people!
Here’s his email!: mertz@nio-inc.com
Gerry O'Kane
Posted May 30, 2012 at 7:10 PM
Thanks Matt. What I’m unsure about is how the debt collectors work – as far as I know they should have a court order but I don’t know details. I will email the CEO and will do a little poking in their corporate records to find out who shareholders are and start badgering them too. I’ll keep you updated. Also alert the Ziinga Sucks page on Facebook as I have done.
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翻译
法律“不适用到ZIINGA” - Ziinga欺诈
BY MATT AUNGER - 2012年5月11日，
发表于：新闻，STUFF
****签署请愿书，帮助这家公司欺骗活动无辜的人：http://www.thepetitionsite.com/856/644/784/stop-ziinga-scams/ ****
我们都被诱惑令人难以置信的交易，可以发现从网上购物和储蓄。成功的eBay，亚马逊，播放的名字，但一些在线零售商提供巨大的价值，他们的宝贵的在线客户群。
但也有一些交易，往往似乎好得是真实的，一分钱拍卖，拥有95％储蓄“，在这里你可以购买到最新的科技小玩意以经济的价格！或者你可以吗？
下面是一个快速的，它应该如何与这些网站：
第1步，报名及购买标书;
第2步，你会发现你想要的产品，并把您的出价注意：每次出价提高产品价格的1便士（因此“一分钱拍卖”），并在大多数情况下，添加一定的时间，以拍卖（一般为15秒， 1分钟）;
第3步，在拍卖定时器运行到零
第4步，你付出你的项目，它被运和令人难以置信的95％的节能，你是一个快乐的小兔子！
回想那句老话，“如果它似乎好得是真实的，它可能是”，虽然有一定的一分钱拍卖网站，提供合理低价处理，不同的产品，也有一些很简单，试图欺骗消费者的启动。一个这样的企业是“一分钱拍卖”称为Ziinga.com的网站。
Ziinga，所拥有的火烈鸟Intervest - 谁最近成为了NIO安全公司（仁王公司）的附属公司 - 第一眼看上去，很像Madbid，Bidvid，Sneekit和其他合法的一分钱拍卖网站（尽管Sneekit您购买Sneeks，不出价！）。
在现场看。一切似乎是合法的，他们都采用的各种公司和其他人的支持。
如何节，显然告诉你一切你需要知道的有关该公司的注册部分，他们甚至会告诉你，他们是“＃1”，“最受好评的一分钱拍卖网站”。
优秀的新闻吧？如果你找到了金矿，让我们开始吧！
您通过简单的注册部分似乎是一个标段低端产品。首先想到的可能是“嘿，这是一个免费的”买入“，所以他们不会给我，我啄的头版是怎么回事！”但是，如果你停了片刻，环顾四周，所有出价最高的人，你会发现一个特别的指示，必须受到质疑的合法性，投标人占有领先竞标的所有产品...嗯...在有限的时间！心里很不舒服，也许他只是想自己的运气，一切都是正确的吗？
在继续之前，等待计时器下降到零，这些“促销拍卖”，你会发现一件事，除非你出价，他们不会！他们将达到1秒，停止了一会儿，然后一下子被提升备份到1分钟，1分50秒，一个新的名字为主角的投标人。请记住，它的条款及条件，除非计时器达到零，你不赢！
提示它不会达到零！因此，这是没有拍卖。
简单地说是“优惠”页面看起来像一分钱拍卖的一个。
为什么呢？因为你要保证赢得一些东西！然后，你会很高兴你会购买出价，让其他的产品，“我已经赢过一次，我可以做到这一点！”的心态。
因此，进行安置您的出价，但等待下一个页面！点击通过“恭喜节！ （不用担心，我不会带领你进入陷阱，我们会停下来之前，我们有！）。
现在，我们已经看到了这页之前，它是一个标准的支付页面，你会看到任何电子商务网站。
通常在这一点上，你只会把你的详细信息，不能太冒险的条款及条件是什么？头版上，没有任何会员费，或订阅费！
如果你停了片刻，向下滚动页面（大概是这样设计的人只是想获得一个新的手机或平板电脑是惊人的交易只是通过点击毫不犹豫地！），你会发现下面的一个小星号：
“这个付款是7天的免费白金会员。一旦到期的天数，适用于正常月费59.99英镑的。的成员是唯一有约束力的3个月。“
这是你应该停下来，但有些则没有。这看起来好像是一个标准的支付网关，那么，为什么你不只是支付？
知道谁是“按月支付服务”的规定，甚至可能认为的7天免费试用，与您购买的是强制性的“七个工作日内开始后的第二天在这一天的消费者收到货物”冷静期集在消费者保护（远程销售）法规2000。这不是！
当记者问他们为什么不坚持消费者保护（远程销售）法规2000我们的源代码，在Ziinga说，这种法律“并不适用于Ziinga的”。
“为什么？”你可能认为。条款中的规定是免税的，但当时我们已经建立了这个国家采购拍卖的拍卖是不是购买。购买已经通过一个促销礼品的网关deceivingly设计，看起来好像它是一个标准的一分钱拍卖。
他们的目的是欺骗，因此他们的商业欺诈行为。
我呼吁所有的人谁可能愿意试用该网站，而不是环顾四周，一个合法的。您无法登录和使用的网站上免费，Ziinga您的权利，不尊重消费者取消协议，除非你想以英镑支付取消费用28。
无处可在网站上，酒吧一条线的会员每月的条款及条件状态什么，所以他们的意图显然是为了掩盖这一事实从一个潜在的客户。
的客户服务团队（Video Conferencing与供电）不会帮助你，他们不会给你任何的回旋余地，他们不会尊重您的消费权益。 Video Conferencing与这些指控拒绝对此发表评论。
没有提供足够的信息，并明确宣传他们的会员费，他们可以被认为是欺诈者的疏忽，不法分子通过远程销售，法规和公司的信心，，旨在欺骗和做一个快速的在你的费用一分钱。
如果你已经被骗的Ziinga有一些方法来阻止他们，这些都是在这里详述。
在你做任何事情之前，它始终是值得直接联系Ziinga的。虽然他们没有帮助，你的第一个步骤中的任何合同，向你的合同，你要“行使你的权利，取消根据消费者保护（远程销售）法规2000”的组织。这也是值得，你不知道，这些法规是不是Ziinga适用于网站的任何地方，并根据这些法律，你可以不被追究责任的不足提供的信息。
如果你陷入任何麻烦，可以尝试一提的ASA（最近（2012年2月29日）担任Ziinga误导电子邮件促销）
接下来的步骤就是删除任何个人信息，他们必须关闭您的帐户页面。通过Video Conferencing与聊天，并要求他们删除所有的支付细节，尽管它可能不会让你随时随地，它总是值得一试！
您的银行联系，要求退款的款项要Ziinga火烈鸟Intervest，，因为他们将无法向您发送您的产品，所以不要太担心。 （不幸的是，网站的网关支付是采用由Thawte，虽然合法公司“VISA验证”，被用在一个非法的方式，因此，您的银行可能会要求您填写各种表格，以承担全部责任。暂无评论可以得到从Thawte）。
下面的步骤来一个警告：
*** Ziinga通过合法的支付网关，和信心的骗局是知情不报。如果您执行下列操作时，他们可能会试图发送后，收债。
不过，他们已经签署了你运行任何信用检查的信贷协议，因此，FSA规定以外的。他们并不真正站在一条腿，但它是我的道义上的责任，以确保您的所有可能结果都知道！我不想负载的人来对我说：“他们正在考虑这一点，和其他这是你的错”。这仅仅是建议，根据我的经验***
我给你这个警告的原因是因为下一个步骤是取消你的卡，或者通过丢失，被盗或损坏你的银行部门。
您的银行应该是愿意帮助你。他们的工作是照顾你的钱，这样，如果他们愿意这样做，尝试关闭帐户，这样您就可以打开一个新的别处。 - 这是一个极端的措施，但它可能会促使他们更多的帮助。
如果任何人有任何进一步的建议，额外的诈骗网站，或只是想分享他们的经验被精读使用注释部分。
****签署请愿书http://www.thepetitionsite.com/8 ... iinga-scams/的****
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***权***
Ziinga标志已被删除，以符合“版权”条例（是的，我们遵守法律！）。
下面是一对夫妇NIO的布赖恩·默茨提出的问题的答案。公司
1。新成员签署了3个月的具有约束力的合同，但没有资格进行检查，以确保客户能买得起这些款项的，而且客户都没有给出一个冷静期，根据与远程销售的规定。
“不幸的是，我们不具备的手段，以检查用户是否可以负担得起的成员，但被用户所接受，因为参加我们只能假设，用户可以负担得起的成员，否则，用户可以随时取消会员支付取消费。我们没有一个冷静期，因为用户购买一个在线的服务 - 而不是一个遥远的产品。我们也期望用信用卡的人可以照顾他们的自我和超过18岁。“
2。为什么没有其他信息，保存几行的条款及条件，这显然广告付费订阅？
“这是不正确的。认购的条件和价格都提到：
- 支付页面（如您输入您的信用卡详细信息）
- 电子邮件收到我们发送给客户确认购买后
- 在“您的帐号”登录区
- 在你接受我们的条款和条件，在购买时“
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开山鼻祖
2012年5月15日下午02:51
我签署了4月19日，支付35英镑的一些投标，并确认电子邮件，提醒我的事实，我刚刚认购三个月，每月59.99。我GOOGLE了他们，并摸索出这是一个骗局。我立即打电话到银行，并取消我的卡。我没有听说过任何东西，直到今天（15日）从津加，这是一个的一封信，出现，以是从intrum尤斯蒂蒂娅“立即解决的未偿还金额GBP 179.97”，如何支付。
我站在哪里？我打算忽略它。
马特Aunger
发表于2012年5月16日上午1:03
最初做的是最好的事情，请直接与Ziinga联系。如果你还没有使用该服务自4月19日，他们将不能够说你被宣传为您所使用的服务（当然，除非你使用它！！）。
不要联系Intrum尤斯蒂蒂娅然而，从我的理解有关收债，任何确认的债务会导致从他们的行动中。
伸出支付，这是不会伤害你的信用记录，因为他们的避风港，T进行任何信用检查。
我的建议将猎犬Ziinga，直到他们放弃在擦拭的债务。
如果你想我可以送你布赖恩·默茨电子邮件地址，你可以直接和他联系。他是CEO的，仁王公司（该公司负责Ziinga）和最有可能能帮助你的人，所有的客户服务代表会简单地告诉你，“它的政策”，并结束对话。
希望你得到这个排序很快。
马特
艾玛
2012年5月17日下午7:53
有趣的阅读你的文章，上面＆I签署了请愿书！我一直与真正的被骗的这些人的第一感觉就像是我自己的愚蠢错误，但我很快意识到，我的很多人都被扯掉由本公司.....我想我曾一个摄像头和中标人支付的项目马上.....几天后，我查了状态的航运已付款，但他们要求我验证我的身份之前，他们就可以把货很奇怪，考虑到他们可能需要支付未经核实的任何！我当时收取59.99我的会员吗？！一个成员，我没有意识到我已经签署了，也不，我想！在一个月前，我提交了一份要求取消这个成员及被赋予了取消约会，我也给别人说话的实时聊天和告诉他们，我不知道这个会员费和我已经取消了它和告诉他们不要再采取从我的账户中的钱 - 因为我发现今天这是我拒绝支付会员费和他们没有处理我的要求，取消！所以，再一次这个月我已经收取59.99的实时聊天，所以我就问为什么他们仍然这样做时，我已经取消了会员资格和发送取消电子邮件与他们立刻采取了另外28.00从我的帐户（取消费），我打电话给他们的会员资格要求拿回我的钱和抱怨的事实，他们不能运往一个项目，我已经支付未经核实我的ID，但可以从我的银行帐户150英镑以上的女人......我喊在电话中和我说来惭愧，我发誓在她的！但她向我保证没有更多的钱从我的帐户 - 我也问过她，从他们的系统中删除我所有的细节和她劝我回复取消电子邮件，请求他们这样做，她还试图告诉我说，我没有尝试在一个月前取消我的会员资格......我只是烧毁这整个事情我已经哭了一整天 - 只是不知道，如果有任何方法可以让我得到一些我的钱回来了......你有什么建议给我呢？
马特Aunger
2012年5月17日8:23 PM
艾玛，我已经向您发出一封电子邮件。对不起，我不能有很大帮助，但猎犬，直到你获得退款。
最大
2012年：20日上午10:16
，您好！
我最终放弃，付出了£28，但我提出了一个大的战斗。代表似乎并不关心。
请
人民
DONT
用途
ZIINGA
格里奥凯恩
2012年5月30日5:51 PM
是的，它是一个熟悉的故事。我做了什么，马特说中的文章（在我读它），并取消了在10分钟内读通过电子邮件发送给我的ternms和条件。我仍然不明白为什么他们不排除冷静期，他们在英国与工会国旗标志和电荷英镑。他们也没有提供符合英国的地址（我的理解）。我没有取消我的卡，他们等待着，直到最后一天上诉到重新应用59.99英镑的负责。在此之前，我是SNET在马耳他说，如果我不支付他们的欺诈团队的一封信 - 150英镑 - 收债未来，我会被起诉诈骗。
我会很感激任何意见，处理收债，和上handloing法庭诉讼。
一生中的玩世不恭的瞬时失效。
马特Aunger
2012年5月30日6:18 PM
喜格里，
对不起，听说你也有一个问题，与Ziinga！我不能完全理解为什么他们认为他们可以逃脱精读策略，如用阴招！
当我问到CEO，他给了我很多的运行借口，说这样的话他们不这样做信用检查，因为他们没有足够的设施“，并没有提供一个冷静期，因为他们不认为是距离销售服务！
我不能完全确定什么建议，但说实话，我认为，任何法院的情况下会笑的房间！
如果您有任何有关该公司的抱怨，这里是NIO的公司的CEO。 （布赖恩·默茨）的电子邮件地址！我也许不应该给了这一点，但说实话，他们不应该被指挥的人！
这里是他的电子邮件：mertz@nio-inc.com
格里奥凯恩
2012年5月30日下午7:10
感谢马特。我不知道是怎么收债工作 - 据我所知，他们应该有法院的命令，但我不知道细节。我将通过电子邮件的CEO和戳在他们的公司记录，以找出谁是股东，并开始缠着他们也做一些。我会及时向大家发布。也提醒Ziinga吧页面在Facebook上，我已经做了。
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