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Didn't want to discourage anyone last year . . . . .
- >90% of grapes in Quebec are eating grapes, make awful wine.
- University of ? has developed few ~hybride :p  grapes that can be grown in Quebec
- These 'new' grape varietals can be purchased from a few places
- Believe a number of Wineries in Quebec are selling these wine already.

Theoretically, it'll takes ~4 years for your plant to mature.  U'll only get ~1 bottle per plant @~4th year.  After that . . . . . . ha ha . . . . . many many more bottles . . . . .

When I remember/find name of University/place(s) that u can buy the baby plants, I'll post it here.  
Happy 1st day of Spring    

montrealpost

From:  http://www.sinoquebec.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=545245:

Post by vana
  . . . . . 我的酿法是跟意大利人学的，酒庄里的传统酿法。用优选的葡萄直接榨碎发酵。除了葡萄不添加任何东西，酵母也不用。因为是自己喝，所以也不用稳定剂，个人感觉这样更健康一些，酒的味道更纯正。
工艺就是弄碎葡萄，酒池发酵，过滤装桶，装瓶。我用的自然沉淀法，装瓶后，酒很清澈。下层的酒有可能会有些沉淀，如果你比较讲究，还可以在装瓶前增加过滤工艺，这样能保证清澈。

Post by 童趣社
我们也是用这个方法自己酿的，口感很好，已经教了不少朋友这样做。

装瓶后可以放到冰箱，这样保存的时间要长些。但是放得太长味道也会稍微有变化，酒味更浓。

这种酒喝起来跟气水差不多，但后劲很足，不过不上脑，还是很不错的。

具体做法是将买回来的葡萄洗净、凉干（只需把表面水份凉干，不是凉成葡萄干），弄碎葡萄（有朋友是挤裂而已，但个人经验是用搅拌机打碎最好），放入玻璃罐子内密封。如想喝“气水”可稍微加糖，10：1的比例（10磅葡萄1磅糖）。我只用20：1的比例，太甜也不好，不放糖口感也不好。室温下保存25天即可开封。一定要用沙布或煲汤袋狠狠的挤葡萄渣，因为大部分的水分都在渣里。倒入稍大的空器里静置一天沉淀。沉淀后倒入酒瓶即可饮用。切记，要把开封的酒放入冰箱，这样可以最大限度地保证酒的味道不受破坏。

天然又可口，而且简单易行，欢迎大家尝试。

xiyuanfans

Post by montrealpost
Didn't want to discourage anyone last year . . . . .
- >90% of grapes in Quebec are eating grapes, make awful wine.
- University of ? has developed few ~hybride :p grapes that can be grown in Quebec
- These 'new' grape varietals can be purchased from a few places
- Believe a number of Wineries in Quebec are selling these wine already.

Theoretically, it'll takes ~4 years for your plant to mature. U'll only get ~1 bottle per plant @~4th year. After that . . . . . . ha ha . . . . . many many more bottles . . . . .

When I remember/find name of University/place(s) that u can buy the baby plants, I'll post it here.
Happy 1st day of Spring

要喝酒，先从种葡萄开始，MP你真难为人。
不过，若有好的葡萄来酿酒，的确什么都不加就很棒了

montrealpost

Post by xiyuanfans
  . . . .  若有好的葡萄来酿酒，的确什么都不加就很棒了

有, boxes of 酿酒葡萄 ~Sept/October:
- Jean Talon Market, +
- ~ 2 places on Metropolitain Est, + (~St. Leaonard)
- ~ 1 on Jean Talon Est. (~St. Leaonard)
- there must be more that I don't know  

Don't stay on web now, summer is short . . . .  :p  (reply in Chinese preferred, me no type Chinese la       )

"要喝酒，先从种葡萄开始，MP你真难为人。" ==> 破axe 沉boat!!  ~$0 cost for life  :p

121606

Post by montrealpost
  
"要喝酒，先从种葡萄开始，MP你真难为人。" ==> 破axe 沉boat!! ~$0 cost for life :p

破axe 沉boat!!
请问如何破axe, 用什么去破.  我看还是破 WOK 比较实用和容易成功.

montrealpost

121真坏!!    

Web translator didn't give me the words.  害我开inputking, axe is 釜 ma!!  破釜沉舟 ah, 坏蛋!!  :mad:   
要洗盘子了,  再见!     :p

montrealpost

Haven't found the one I'm looking for, it should be something developed by University of Laval or ? in Quebec??  For now:

Cold Climate Grape Varieties
http://www.quebecwines.com/qw_coldclimategrapes.php

Cold hardy grape vines developed by the University of Minnesota:
http://www.voloacanursery.com/

Whatever QWA can grow, u should be able to grow in your yard.
http://www.winesofquebec.com/wineries/vignoble.php?id=47

Don't have patient to search anymore, whoever come across nursery that sell the baby vines, post it here.

montrealpost

A wholesale, not sure if they retail.  Not sure if there's anything besides Seyval.
http://www.horticlick.com/portal ... =AAAHsdAAGAAAANoAAO

Following is the best place to shop for grape vines:
http://littlefatwino.com/breaultE.html

Wine Grape Production Outside Traditional Areas in Ontario, interesting reading for grower:
http://www.omafra.gov.on.ca/engl ... /info_grapeprod.htm

Technical document on cold hardy wine grapes, don't think any of u will be interested.
http://www.dogwoodtreevineyards. ... all%20varieties.pdf

montrealpost

Remember:  the best wine from cold climate variety will always be a blend of 3-6 different varieties.  
Believe we are in 4b "region".  http://www.littlefatwino.com/grgenetics.htm

Red: Frontenac, ES 5-17, Sabrevois, MN1211 (coming: MN1200  .  .  .)

White: Frontenac Gris, La Crescent, Swenson White, Louise Swenson, ES6-16-30  .  .  .

1st harvest in the 3rd year.  1 mature vine gives u ~1x750ml bottle.  White wines age ~6mth, red ~18mth.

* Ice wine in Quebec only started last few years, not sure variety. U can grow + make your ice wine.
(I don't know how to press the juice    , but wine making process is identical to all table wine.)

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我家的葡萄也快熟了。想问一下，葡萄树的种植要领和过冬。