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Costco AR sales, $14 off double pack, ending coming Sunday Nov. 7.  Only 3 varietals available, namely Merlot, Shiraz and Chardonnay(White).  Details @ http://argentiaridge.com/cgi-bin ... &category_id=71

Believe next sales will be Feb, 2011.  Most likely there will be one extra red, namely Chianti.

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Concentrates for table wine quality is ~10L @ $70+.  I recommended u to try the Costco AR Merlot, due to 你们说的~"性价比较高'.

AR的酒淡了点，可以:
1)  Make sure u put the complete Oak pack in,
2)  Make Shiraz (fuller body but may require aging), instead of Merlot (easy drinking wine),
3)  Your glass carboy fills 31.5 bottles (750ml).  Make ~29 bottles*, then [color="Red"]TOP UP WITH WINE instead of water after u stablize, or
4)  Buy other wine kits**.

*  Didn`t I tell u to measure your bucket?!  Fill your glass carboy with water to ~ 1 inch above shoulder.  Pour water into bucket, mark the line for next use.

**  The RJS-GC-Pinot Noir and RJS-GC-Cabernet Sauvignon that u liked is available at a store near u, few $ cheaper than Hwy20. Check store locator @ http://www.rjspagnols.com/en/storelocator.aspx.

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Ice wine is available in both fresh juice and wine kits.  

Fresh Juice is sold by the litre, whatever volume u want, not sure about minimum.  Requires PRE-order (只是因为葡萄农场怕卖不完), it is too late to order this year (delivery ~Dec/Jan).  Making ice wine from juice is IDENTICAL to making other grape wine from juice.  No stablizing required, no degassing required.  Only 1 extra siphoning and need to leave wine in glass carboy for total of ~8 months.  (U can bottle wine 1.5-3.5months, but less mellow and higher acidity due to no MFL)

Wine kits are all Ice STYLE wine, i.e. 假冰酒, over 50 to choose from.  Most kits are for making 15 litre, i.e. 1/2 standard carboy.  U can either buy 1/2 sized carboy to make 1 kit, or make 2 kits at the same time.  Mind u, 2 kits make 60x375ml bottles, Ice Wine bottles are extremely expensive.

Ice STYLE wine kits are all 6-week-kits, making process ~identical to Costco 4-week-kit.  Only difference is leave wine in carboy for 3 weeks instead of 1 after stabilizing.

The first 酒厂 we went last year should be the cheapest now.  I havn't tried but would say forget about their white ice (cheap is no good ), their red ice could be acceptable (based on limited observation :p ).

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Regular table wine grade, used to be 8L concentrates, ~$6X-$8X+7.5% GST + $corks$.  Now all "improved" version at 10L at similar price.

Costco wine kits, AR and PL, ~8L concentrates also, but ~5-15% lighter than above. Only ~$30/kit, corks/label/caps all included.  Hence, ~"性价比较高'.

There are tons of better wine kits, some over $200, all for 30x750ml.  There are in between kits of the above, ~$40-$5X.  Sales on the cheaper ones requires buying 8 kits at the same time.  I have enough kits for this year, taking a break next year.  May be we can buy kits together in 2012, we'll see . . . .

shanshui

请问什么时候可以酿冰酒？

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假冰酒 - 浓缩的, 每天都可以买到。
真冰酒 - 需要在夏季[color="Red"]预订, 圣诞左右交货。供应是 绝对没有问题！

Not many farmers dare to keep juice in stock, they just sell left-over to manufacturer(s) at whatever price they could get, meaning a lot cheaper than we can imagine.  Manufacturer(s) refers to Inniskillin, etc.

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应对方法5 - 不好喝的酒 。 。 。 。 。加糖
- 实际上，一些中国人喜欢喝 甜葡萄酒，不能喝干红。
- 德国人已经用这个方法 好几个世纪 (几千年 :rolleyes:，check history of Gewürztraminer)。
- 仅限特别为酿酒用的甜味剂 = sweetener from wine supply stores.

shanshui

请问lasalle附近那里能买到酿冰酒的葡萄汁？谢谢了

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Lasalle 有三或四家(4th one may be considered Lachine) 酿酒用品店.

1.  Only open in summer in front of Maxi, no Ice Wine
2.  Big store, may or may not have Ice Wine, the kits that they USED TO SELL are not that good,
3.  WE retailer, moved ~1 year ago, both their White and Red Ice Wine are OK
4.  May be in Lachine not Lasalle, WE retailer also.

Webmaster doesn't allow listing of store address/phone #.  Check your Yellow Pages for "~Wine Making" or go to manufacturer's website to check for retailer(s) near u.  Posting on 冰酒 @ http://sinoquebec.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=495893.  Happy New Year!

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上次 我写错了   。  。  。  。嘻嘻

"酿酒用的甜味剂" 是所谓的 "Wine Conditioner".  Wine Making Supply Stores would understand "sweetener".

另外 不要低估 oak 的力量 :  -
- 葡萄牙的 Port = Porto (超旧历史 ) 卖不出  。 。 。 再储存n年+再加酒+再 ?? = 现在的 Porto.
- 澳洲的袋鼠牌 :confused: (有黄色尾巴的那个 ) 也是卖不出  。 。 。 再加木头+再加木头   。 。 。 ==> 袋鼠牌=木头牌 :p
- 在美国酿造葡萄酒的初期 (历史 ) 太糟糕了 。 。 。 也是卖不出   。 。 。 依靠 用全新的美国橡木桶 发酵的 Chardonnay 杀出丛围。  The buttery taste in expensive American Chardonnay is from the American un-toasted oak barrel.